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Post by Horridus on Dec 30, 2011 14:24:38 GMT
I prefer the top one, but I think it could do with a little more adjustment to make the animals fit into the scene (maybe a bit of blurring around the edges).
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Post by Himmapaan on Dec 30, 2011 15:01:31 GMT
The white of the snow may provide better contrast, but I think the distant pines may offer too much clutter. I prefer the forest too, but you may need to heighten the contrast: perhaps darken your dinosaurs and lightening some of the middle and background trees.
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Post by Griffin on Dec 30, 2011 18:20:54 GMT
Not the snow one. The fact that there are no footprints or any disturbance in the snow around the animals makes it look less realistic.
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Post by arioch on Dec 30, 2011 20:46:26 GMT
You´re right. The wood colours just seem to fit better, and couldn´t figure out how to make convincing marks or footsprints in the snow...thanks for the tips.
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Post by arioch on Jan 2, 2012 21:56:19 GMT
I think I´m finally sticking with this background (a south american plain), although it still requires more work and its less pretty than the wood but its simplicity and greater sense of perspective makes the animals stand out more, which was quite my intention....  .....OH, and Happy new year everyone!  |
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Post by Himmapaan on Jan 2, 2012 22:09:50 GMT
I think it works.  The colours of the landscape reflect those of the dinosaurs too. |
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Post by arioch on Jan 4, 2012 0:53:58 GMT
Yep, I agree. I´m currently sketching a second version , this time including the "mantling" of extant raptors with Velociraptor and...NOT protoceratops (too typical) |
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Post by arioch on Jan 5, 2012 22:54:51 GMT
Here´s another WIP (Mortal techniques II): Velociraptor mantling over a young oviraptorosaur.  Uploaded with ImageShack.us |
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Post by zopteryx on Jan 6, 2012 2:26:10 GMT
Oviraptor chick never stood a chance... |
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Post by arioch on Jan 9, 2012 2:48:43 GMT
Indeed. The progress so far...about 60% done.  Uploaded with ImageShack.us |
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Post by totoro on Jan 9, 2012 3:00:01 GMT
Wow, that's gorgeous, Arioch! I like the color scheme and pose. You do a great job of capturing motion in your work, but...I've probably said that before.  |
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Post by DinoLord on Jan 9, 2012 3:58:18 GMT
The Velociraptor's eye is very well done. But I'm not sure if the tail could bend to that degree.
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Post by Griffin on Jan 9, 2012 16:45:13 GMT
Cool stuff. Have you ever tried experimenting with shading more? I think this one would look much more realistic if it had some darker darks. (My old watercolor teacher used that term a lot actually).
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Post by arioch on Jan 10, 2012 11:49:49 GMT
Wow, that's gorgeous, Arioch! I like the color scheme and pose. You do a great job of capturing motion in your work, but...I've probably said that before. Thanks again! The Velociraptor's eye is very well done. But I'm not sure if the tail could bend to that degree. That got me worried (still does). We know how dromaeosaurs were capable of wrapping their tails around their bodies , almost like a squirrel but how much of it was actually flexible its not so certain. The tip section (about 1/3 of the total lenght, up to the base) was stiffened, that´s for sure. Perhaps I should have drawed the bending point closer to the base of the tail, instead of the middle of it.. Cool stuff. Have you ever tried experimenting with shading more? I think this one would look much more realistic if it had some darker darks. (My old watercolor teacher used that term a lot actually). Heh, thanks. Yep, it still needs a lot of shading and lightning here and there...Maybe it also needed a bit more of pencil work for the darker shades -sometimes it look better than the digital- Since the raptor feathers are supposed to be white, I dont know if darken it more would screw the effect, but I´ll try anyway, I just need a bit of practice. |
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Post by Himmapaan on Jan 10, 2012 17:47:03 GMT
...Maybe it also needed a bit more of pencil work for the darker shades -sometimes it look better than the digital- ...I just need a bit of practice. This is why you ought to work more traditionally, Josep. ;D Great stuff. I do agree with Chris about having some greater contrasts, but it's another lovely drawing. |
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Post by Horridus on Jan 10, 2012 20:05:34 GMT
Love this one. I wouldn't worry about the tail bend too much. It's quite gentle. I've read about a dromaeosaur with its tail bent in an s-curve.
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Post by Griffin on Jan 11, 2012 19:10:18 GMT
Love this one. I wouldn't worry about the tail bend too much. It's quite gentle. I've read about a dromaeosaur with its tail bent in an s-curve. If its the same specimen I'm thinking of I'm pretty sure that curve was a result of the remains getting warped. I think the general consensus on dromie tails is flexible at the base, fishing rod stiffness for the rest. |
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Post by Horridus on Jan 11, 2012 19:20:08 GMT
Huh. OK then. I wasn't too sure about it. Will have to do a bit of digging.
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Post by arioch on Jan 12, 2012 3:46:11 GMT
Love this one. I wouldn't worry about the tail bend too much. It's quite gentle. I've read about a dromaeosaur with its tail bent in an s-curve. Might be this one? scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/2008/08/dromaeosaur_tails.php It looks like a natural shape to me, none of the bones seem to be forced or "broken" as a result of post mortem effect. But mines bendy angle is a bit more drastic, hence my doubts. (Also, seems like there´s some undescribed sleeping velociraptor specimen with wrapped tail acording to the DML; so far just a rumor, I´m looking forward to know something more about.) ...Maybe it also needed a bit more of pencil work for the darker shades -sometimes it look better than the digital- ...I just need a bit of practice. This is why you ought to work more traditionally, Josep. ;D Great stuff. I do agree with Chris about having some greater contrasts, but it's another lovely drawing. Indeed, I should oblige myself ....one of the points of my duty list for this new year, apart from more focusing on pterosaurs and ornithopods is practicing with backgrounds and pencil shading (traditionally worked colors can come later I guess...If I found more time for it of course) |
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Post by Griffin on Jan 13, 2012 0:06:21 GMT
That's the specimen. It doesn't need to be broken to happen after death. I think bones can get warped during the fossilization process. Also as a body decomposes lots of changes happen as well as it dries out and whatnot.
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The colours of the landscape reflect those of the dinosaurs too. 
