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Post by Krissy on Sept 20, 2011 21:55:10 GMT
I'll make the call on that....yes, yes we can.
Anyone else think it's a little curious that Sarcosuchus made only a small apperance in the episode, but promo footage shows him elsewhere attacking a Sauropod? Are they going to revisit this location, or are they going to put Sarcosuchus somewhere he didn't really live, like they did in Running From Dinosaurs?
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Post by Dinotoyforum on Sept 20, 2011 23:31:45 GMT
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Post by Dinotoyforum on Sept 20, 2011 23:37:54 GMT
Sorry for largeness but I thought I'd also share this depiction I stumbled across:  |
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Post by arioch on Sept 20, 2011 23:42:33 GMT
Not available in my area. Brilliant.
That pliosaur of the picture is supposed to be "Predator X"?
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Post by Dinotoyforum on Sept 21, 2011 0:20:19 GMT
Yep. But we know little about Pred X at present so the rendering is based on Pliosaurus.
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Post by arioch on Sept 21, 2011 0:57:55 GMT
Indeed, and more like Kronosaurus than Liopleurodon , except for the lower jaw...I think it has too many teeth though.
The plesiosaur texture looks very nice.
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Post by gwangi on Sept 21, 2011 1:24:42 GMT
in those bonededs which are certainly nests, how we even know how much they lived after hatch, or if they had the chance at all considering that all remains belong to extremely young, barely newborns and not growing chicks? Was it not you who said to best understand the lives of dinosaurs we should look at extant archosaurs? Well...extant archosaurs care for their young right? Anyway, lets clarify something. Arioch, are you saying that dinosaurs gave no care to their young or just that the young were not Altricial? I think if we clear that up you and Griffin may end up in agreement. From the sounds of it you're just saying dinosaurs weren't born and cared for like songbirds and such right? Anyway, it has been a long day and since I've been out of this conversation for some hours now I think I'll stay out, though I think a lot of this is mostly a misunderstanding of each other. |
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Post by Dinotoyforum on Sept 21, 2011 1:26:13 GMT
Yeah, the dentition in the pliosaur is pretty poorly done - I'm quite disappointed.
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Post by gwangi on Sept 21, 2011 1:29:11 GMT
I apologize for continuing the discussion after it was finished. I just saw what Arioch wrote and clicked "Quote" before reading on. Not trying to re-ignite anything.
Back on topic. I'm excited about the next episode which I believe is on feathered dinosaurs. Hopefully it will end up on Youtube soon.
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Post by bokisaurus on Sept 21, 2011 5:53:37 GMT
Watched the Africa episode on Youtube, so far I'm really liking this show. Great animation  |
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Post by bfler on Sept 21, 2011 7:04:45 GMT
I also like it. Story wise it is much better than Dinosaur Revolution. Not such a blood splatter slapstick, more a science documentary of real life.
But that doesn't really surprise me because British documentaries are in general less stupid action or gore than the American ones.
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Post by dyscrasia on Sept 21, 2011 10:30:31 GMT
Actually story wise, DR was more enjoyable imo. What I really liked about PD was its presentation.
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Post by roselaar on Sept 21, 2011 20:58:11 GMT
Just saw the episode Feathered Dragons. Pretty good. The CGI isn't great (but then, I don't watch it in HD) but it's very interesting stuff and quite up to date. I just don't like all the little screens with info popping up all the time, it's annoying and chaotic. John Hurt's narration is enough for me.
Still no match for WWD though.
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Post by Krissy on Sept 21, 2011 21:18:13 GMT
I enjoyed Feathered Dragons, I learned a few things from it, and it also helped me get a handle on the idea that Dinosaurs weren't all running along on the ground. I mean I'd known that some had spent most of their time in trees, but seeing them interact with one another helped me better imagine that ecosystem.
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Post by crackington on Sept 21, 2011 23:11:02 GMT
Also watched Episode 2 , loved the chase scene between the Sinornithosaurus and the Microraptor. This is shaping up to be a very good series.
BBC 4 also showed a couple of good docs after, one on how paleontologists "build" dinosaurs which focussed in part on Luis Chiappe's recent work on a new dino exhibition in Los Angeles (looks very good, hope my lottery ticket comes up soon!). The second one pulled together the best dino bits from the BBC's "Horizon" science show over the last 40 years, including old interviews with Ostrom, Currie and Bakker. This was excellent and I remembered seeing some of it (Ostrom on Deinonychus in particular) when they were first aired. Hopefully the BBC will make these docs more widely available. The next one is on Dino movies next week.
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Post by stoneage on Sept 22, 2011 2:22:18 GMT
Like I were making this up. I just stick to experts objective opinion, sorry. None of the truly reliable experts think seriously of complex, extensive parental care as a fact anymore . Young -hatchlings- skeletons and juveniles found together on what could have been a nest or not implies strong evidence of extensive parental care? in those bonededs which are certainly nests, how we even know how much they lived after hatch, or if they had the chance at all considering that all remains belong to extremely young, barely newborns and not growing chicks? please. There´s no way we can go on with this if we keep ignoring that. But yes, this is an esterile discussion since we all have so different standards and understandings on what is reliable and real science and what isn´t. I´m done for now. What experts are you talking about? Evidence supports the fact that some Dinosaurs at least showed parential care for their young. Take "Egg Mountain" for instance, where the remains of Maisaurus nest have been found, Their are eggs, hatchlings, juveniles and adults all living together. They know that hatchlings grew from 16 inches to 58 inches in a year. There are hatchling that show tooth wear from chewed up plants which had leg muscle which were to weak to leave the nest. This shows parental care. Also the hatchlings had different facial proportions then the adults, larger eyes and shorter snouts. This tends to make them cute. This is common among animals that are dependent on their parents for survival. Also the nest are evenly spaced with trampled egg shells between them. This suggest that the nest were part of a colony, not the result of nesting in a different spot each year. Troodon also nested close by to Maiasaurus. It's eggs also suggest that the children had direct contact with their parents. Also Psittacosaurus nest have been found with an adult and offspring several months old. Again evidence suggest that the youngs legs were to weak to leave the nest. www.montana.edu/wwwes/facstaff/images/djv_msu_news.pdfSo who says this is wrong?  |
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Post by arioch on Sept 22, 2011 3:49:56 GMT
"There are hatchling that show tooth wear from chewed up plants which had leg muscle which were to weak to leave the nest"
Where does it say that they had weak "leg muscle" -I doubt this would be the exact words in any case-? I´d like to see that paper referenced in the pdf.
In fact, the teeth in those specimens appear to be worn regardless of their age, suggesting that they chewed their own food and thus they could be precocial. Some gregariousness is possible, of course.
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Post by neovenator08 on Sept 22, 2011 17:14:39 GMT
Great episode last night! Although the bits where the big dinosaurs appeared were predictable (both the Sinraptor killing the Epidepxreallylonghardtopronouncenamepteryx and the Gigantoraptor's debut), I loved the Sinornithosaurus' depiction!
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Post by Horridus on Sept 22, 2011 17:31:09 GMT
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Post by Griffin on Sept 22, 2011 22:38:19 GMT
Ugh they did poisonous sinornithosaurus??? BOOOOOOOO
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