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Post by deanm on Sept 13, 2009 13:52:54 GMT
BURGESS SHALE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know this has been said before but the fauna was so "unusual" compared to what followed (or maybe not depending on your opinion  )
I would suggest the Ecardian fauna of Australia but that would be of very little interest to most people.Kuni & Sbell, sorry for the above suggestion. I did not read far enough back in the thread to catch the selection requirements that were set out by sbell. |
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Post by kuni on Sept 13, 2009 16:54:11 GMT
Invert suggestions = also fail
Maybe someday!
(let's be honest, though, Safari probably doesn't need our help for a Burgess Shale toob)
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Post by Flipyap on Sept 13, 2009 17:03:42 GMT
Masiakasaurus would be nice. Also would like to see a Rajasaurus.
On the other hand I would really like to see Carnegie update the Stegosaurus, Allosaurus and Trike. And although overdone in the dinosaur collectible world, I think its due time for a new Carnegie Rex.
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Post by kuni on Sept 13, 2009 17:21:39 GMT
Okay, here are my fish suggestions with images Cephalaspis (classic agnathan featured in WwM)  Dunkleosteus (classic placoderm, a Safari best-seller)  Hyneria (giant predatory lobefin featured in WwM)  Tiktaalik (famous newly-discovered transitional fossil)  Helicoprion (one of the most morphologically interesting sharks)  Stethacanthus (a shark with a bristle head; featured in WwM)  Orthacanthus (one of the most eel-like sharks)  Xiphactinus (featured in CbSM and Sea Monsters; a good prey item for their new Cretaceous marine reptiles)  Alligator Gar (a modern freaky-looking relative of a Jurassic lineage)  African Lungfish (one of the few surviving lungfish; has weird tentacle-fins)  Those are my Fish Toob suggestions - a good mix of morphological diversity with lots of "popular" forms. I've also tried to avoid animals that have already been done well at a toob scale (Kaiyodo Xenacanthus & Bothriolepis) If a Coelacanth had to show up, I would take out either the Lungfish or Hyneria for it, probably Hyneria due to morphological similarity. |
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Post by kuni on Sept 13, 2009 17:43:14 GMT
Prehistoric Amphibians and Reptiles: Lotosaurus (a weird sail backed raisuchian)  Desmatosuchus (an aetosaur with shoulder spikes)  Postosuchus (a very popular raisuchian featured in many programs)  Gorgonops (featured in WwM and Primeval)  Sphenacodon (because Dimetrodon gets too much screen time!)  Estemmenosuchus (a dinocephalian with weird headgear; cooler than Moschops)  Crassigyrinus (a weird aquatic amphibian featured in Prehistoric Park)  Mastodonsaurus/Paracyclotosaurus (a big temnospondyll predator)  Platyhystrix (a weird sailback; makes up for not including Dimetrodon)  Diplocaulus was not included because Kaiyodo did it well, Prionosuchus was abandoned as being too croc-like, and many of the other amphibian suggestions look like each other. Gerrothorax would be an excellent backup choice. Any other suggestions for this toob? Ideally, to replace one of the figures above, you'd want something either a) more popular b) even weirder looking, and it would have to not look like one of the other choices at a 2-3 inch size. |
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Post by Horridus on Sept 13, 2009 17:47:41 GMT
A gorgonopsid, most definitely, whether it's Gorgonops itself or not. In model form it would be unmistakably not a dinosaur and not a slightly-off Dimetrodon.
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Post by Griffin on Sept 13, 2009 21:24:45 GMT
I like the line up now. I still think there should be a Diplocaulus though. Kaiyodo isn't exactly that easy for a lot of people to get their hands on. I'm now feeling a little iffy about the sphenacodon and its slight resemblance to gorgonops. :/ I dunno if you read my suggestion for it or not but I'm very glad you included the estemmenosuchus and platyhystrix.
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Post by Megaraptor on Sept 13, 2009 21:59:18 GMT
 Maybe Safari should consider doing Toobs based on time periods before the dinosaurs. That's why sbell resurrected this thread. For suggestions on just that. |
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Sept 13, 2009 22:55:21 GMT
I like the line up now. I still think there should be a Diplocaulus though. Kaiyodo isn't exactly that easy for a lot of people to get their hands on. I'm now feeling a little iffy about the sphenacodon and its slight resemblance to gorgonops. :/ I dunno if you read my suggestion for it or not but I'm very glad you included the estemmenosuchus and platyhystrix. Sure the kaiyodo is-- There are always some available somewhere. |
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Post by tomhet on Sept 13, 2009 22:58:32 GMT
^^^ Agreed, the Diplocaulus appears often on Ebay.
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Post by kuni on Sept 13, 2009 23:00:16 GMT
I like the line up now. I still think there should be a Diplocaulus though. Kaiyodo isn't exactly that easy for a lot of people to get their hands on. I'm now feeling a little iffy about the sphenacodon and its slight resemblance to gorgonops. :/ I dunno if you read my suggestion for it or not but I'm very glad you included the estemmenosuchus and platyhystrix. Yeah, the Spheno-Gorgo thing is iffy - both are mammal-like reptiles with a roughly similar build (at a 2-3 inch scale, anyways) I left Spheno on there as more of a nostalgia thing due to Marx, but a Gerrothorax could compete for the spot, definitely. Possibly Diplocaulus too, but the Kaiyodo Diplo is WAY easier to get than the Playvisions Gerrothorax. |
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Sept 13, 2009 23:01:56 GMT
Also, if you really want a safari sphenacodon, just trim the sail on one of their toob dimetrodons and paint him differently-- That's what I did. |
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Post by tomhet on Sept 13, 2009 23:10:54 GMT
I still want an official Sphenacodon ;D I say we include the gorgonopsid and the pelycosaur, they are in no way equivalents. I would certainly not trade Diplocaulus for Gerrothorax, Platyhystrix or Crassigyrinus  |
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Post by Griffin on Sept 13, 2009 23:30:51 GMT
^^^ Agreed, the Diplocaulus appears often on Ebay. I don't really buy anything on ebay. All of my collection was bought from a store of some kind in person. I'm sure there are other people out there like me as well. From that perspective, I would like it if there was a Diplo in the toob. Anyway, just because Kaiyodo did it doesn't mean Safari shouldn't. Its one of the best known pre-dino critters out there. On top of this it looks awesome, totally unique, unlike anything else, it will really stand out in there. Why not include it? |
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Post by crankydinosaur on Sept 13, 2009 23:34:39 GMT
Why was my suggestion shot down? Alticamelus and moropus appear in almost every image of the Miocene. I think we need more prehistoric mammals especially Eocene/Oligocene/Miocee ones  crankydinosaur |
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Sept 13, 2009 23:47:28 GMT
^^^ Agreed, the Diplocaulus appears often on Ebay. I don't really buy anything on ebay. All of my collection was bought from a store of some kind in person. I'm sure there are other people out there like me as well. From that perspective, I would like it if there was a Diplo in the toob. Anyway, just because Kaiyodo did it doesn't mean Safari shouldn't. Its one of the best known pre-dino critters out there. On top of this it looks awesome, totally unique, unlike anything else, it will really stand out in there. Why not include it? Because there's already one made. Why have another diplocaulus when there already is one (and one that's very common to boot), when you could have something like mastodonsaurus or crassigyrinus or sphenacodon? (threee things that were made like once and are extremely hard to find) |
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Post by stoneage on Sept 13, 2009 23:50:45 GMT
Why was my suggestion shot down? Alticamelus and moropus appear in almost every image of the Miocene. I think we need more prehistoric mammals especially Eocene/Oligocene/Miocee ones crankydinosaur Because Bell asked us specifically to pick primitive sharks, fish, amphibians and reptiles to supply Safari with suggestions. He does not at this time want dinosaurs, pterosaurs, marine reptiles or mammals. He probably should have started a seperate thread for this to avoid confusion. |
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Post by Griffin on Sept 13, 2009 23:52:56 GMT
I don't really buy anything on ebay. All of my collection was bought from a store of some kind in person. I'm sure there are other people out there like me as well. From that perspective, I would like it if there was a Diplo in the toob. Anyway, just because Kaiyodo did it doesn't mean Safari shouldn't. Its one of the best known pre-dino critters out there. On top of this it looks awesome, totally unique, unlike anything else, it will really stand out in there. Why not include it? Because there's already one made. Why have another diplocaulus when there already is one (and one that's very common to boot), when you could have something like mastodonsaurus or crassigyrinus or sphenacodon? (threee things that were made like once and are extremely hard to find) So....you must be really frustrated about all the T.Rexes, Trikes and Velociraptors floating around, huh? And realistically, how common is the thing? I go to toy stores and model stores when I get the opportunity and I've never seen any. Think about it from a normal consumer's point of view, not a hard core dinosaur model collector who scans every possible outlet on a regular basis for obscure species. Parents and kids, the target buyers, are not going to be buying things on ebay. |
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Post by tomhet on Sept 13, 2009 23:56:19 GMT
Safari is very popular on Ebay.
And there are at least four different Diplocaulus. Gerrothorax, Crassigyrinus and Platyhystrix are really impossible to find. I say we drop the Diplocaulus.
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Sept 13, 2009 23:57:39 GMT
Yes. Everybody is. I can't think of one single person who isn't tired of all the trexes, triceratops, and velociraptors out there.
You'd be surprised at how many kids buy things off ebay-- Ever kid my age and younger has bought something off ebay. But that's not really the point... Just thought I'd share...
God. The point is, why have a diplcaulus when there are other more interesting things to take it's place. But, since you seem to have an emotional attachment to this amphibian, I'm not going to argue any further.
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