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Post by thagomizer on Aug 21, 2008 13:46:29 GMT
You say they put up a Trachodon. Where did the bones come from? I thought all they really had were some unidentifiable hadrosaur teeth. Trachadon is a old name for Edmontosaurus I believe. It's complicated... the mounts that originally went up as Trachodon are now classified as Anatotitan. Back in the day, pretty much all crestless hadrosaurs were misclassified as Trachodon. After all the reclassification, the only thing left assigned to Trachodon were the original, non-diagnostic teeth. Remember, nomenclature is just naming, not science. If they decided to go with "well we based Trachodon on these teeth, anything with teeth like this are Trachodon", then the genus Trachodon would have included most hadrosaurs... Trachodon walkeri instead of Parasaurolophus walkeri, etc. But then it would be a junior synonym of Hadrosaurus anyway. Hadrosaurus would = Hadrosauridae
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Post by bolesey on Aug 21, 2008 17:16:16 GMT
that's funny you mention that, because I get what you were saying earlier about T.rex, 'Brontosaurus' Stegosaurus etc, that's true enough. Somehow despite Hadrosaurus being the first dino skeleton to be mounted, and having several on display in New York, Chicago, Washington DC, Philadelphia, and yet it doesn't have that enduring quality to it.
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Aug 21, 2008 17:20:46 GMT
" You publish a name...the journals announce it..and it's changed before you can pronounce it " - Nomenclature Blues Pretty much sums it up no ? lol... I remember names like Monoclonius...that was a great name for a ceratopsian..and one I became familiar with thanks to that show with Christopher Reeve...
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Post by thagomizer on Aug 22, 2008 12:45:05 GMT
" You publish a name...the journals announce it..and it's changed before you can pronounce it " - Nomenclature Blues Pretty much sums it up no ? lol... I remember names like Monoclonius...that was a great name for a ceratopsian..and one I became familiar with thanks to that show with Christopher Reeve... Man, what I would give for that show on DVD. Those stop motion sequences put the new CGi stuff to shame, easily. It was like a Doug Henderson painting come to life. Monoclonius really is the Trachodon of ceratopsians, but luckily it's still a fairly valid name. Even if it turns out to be a variant of Centrosaurus, it has priority.
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Post by crazycrowman on Aug 22, 2008 16:36:16 GMT
What about these ?
Part 1
Part 2 I loved this documentary and I would prefer these 100% over so much of the "Computer animation" junk that out there now. (Granted, I loved the BBCs "Walking With" series)
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Post by sid on Aug 22, 2008 17:17:25 GMT
Wow,i really liked those cartoons back in the day,i'm glad to see them again
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Post by sbell on Aug 22, 2008 17:50:38 GMT
Wow,i really liked those cartoons back in the day,i'm glad to see them again But how many times can we hear the Dino-ZARS. Dang that was annoying. But I did enjoy most ofthe show--highlighting Bakker before he became both irrelevant and insane.
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Aug 22, 2008 20:40:17 GMT
" You publish a name...the journals announce it..and it's changed before you can pronounce it " - Nomenclature Blues Pretty much sums it up no ? lol... I remember names like Monoclonius...that was a great name for a ceratopsian..and one I became familiar with thanks to that show with Christopher Reeve... Man, what I would give for that show on DVD. Those stop motion sequences put the new CGi stuff to shame, easily. It was like a Doug Henderson painting come to life. Monoclonius really is the Trachodon of ceratopsians, but luckily it's still a fairly valid name. Even if it turns out to be a variant of Centrosaurus, it has priority. I'm glad this brought up some fond memories...right after posting that I did an eBay search to see if it was...no luck though...I do have a vhs..maybe I can get it converted at some point. The imagery was simply amazing and it inspired me to no end...lol Only later did I find out it the animation was done by Phil Tippet ...man I remember wanting figures of those dinos... ;D I like the name myself...even if it's not widley accepted...eventually the day will be when we use the names and no one will know what we're talking about though... The Dinosaurs was a great series...I actually watched the first one again just recently...they should have animated more of it though is the only place for improvement I can see. This another I need to convert to dvd if possible...man I have a list...lol I also like the dinosaurs made for A&E's Dinosaur! ...I actually need to find that one..
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Aug 24, 2008 16:10:05 GMT
Wait a minute- I doubt they will come out next year, but maybe the year after. Why? Look at the new carnegie diplodocus. On the bottom it says "Copyright 2006", even though it came out almost 2 years later. I bet these are 2010 releases.
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Aug 24, 2008 16:42:26 GMT
Wait a minute- I doubt they will come out next year, but maybe the year after. Why? Look at the new carnegie diplodocus. On the bottom it says "Copyright 2006", even though it came out almost 2 years later. I bet these are 2010 releases. Do the copyright dates on the bottom actually correspond to release years ? My Wild Safari Apato says 1996..I think these came out later as well..and the new WS Allo says 2007...so maybe they just slap anything on there..lol If Ms. Rogers wasn't sculpting these for 2009, then shouldn't she be showing pics of other pieces for this coming year ? I bet these new pices will say 2008 on them...if they get cast before the end of the year. I'm unclear if she sculpt all of them or not, maybe just the Carnegie pieces..and not the WS ones..but as I said I'm not sure. Those sculpts she showed looked pretty much done, if they make a cast and mail it to china for reproduction in the next month or so they will still be more than ready for next year.
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