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Post by Dinotoyforum on Oct 21, 2008 9:46:50 GMT
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Post by Dinotoyforum on Oct 21, 2008 9:50:16 GMT
'"Get out there and try stepping in their footsteps, and you feel like you are playing the game 'Dance Dance Revolution' that teenagers dance on," says Professor Marjorie Chan from the University of Utah.'
I .....don't.......understand.....
Perhaps most interestingly, they are reporting tail drag marks too - of dinosaurs?
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Post by bustosdomecq on Oct 21, 2008 9:54:26 GMT
Heh, tail drag marks of dinos? So the old reconstructions of tail dragging dinos are correct after all! Then the Invicta sauropods are more accurate than the more 'updated' versions ;D Who knows, perhaps one of these days they'll find tracks of a tyrannosaurus dragging its tail--so the pose of the Papo rex can be beyond any cavil after all ;D I knew it, the 1950s-60s knew more about dinos than the moderns do As I've always maintained, the Ostrom-Bakker dino-bird hypothesis has heralded not a new Golden Age of paleontology but the age of lead. Perhaps sauropods will go back to swimming in the water to help support their body weight ;D
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Post by bustosdomecq on Oct 21, 2008 10:04:49 GMT
I can now in good conscience sell my Safari 08 dippy now and hang on to the Invicta dippy ;D I'm keeping my collection of sauropods scientifically accurate based on the available evidence ;D
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Post by Dinotoyforum on Oct 21, 2008 10:23:30 GMT
Why were these drag marks suddenly and mysteriously discovered in 2008! - why did nobody find these before - anywhere in the world!? hoax anyone? And why in America - just like the Paluxy River fake human prints - Americans have a history of forging trace fossils! This is suspicious - they are obviously hoaxes carved into the rock - this 'evidence' can't be trusted. And what does Professor Marjorie Chan, a sedimentologist, know about footprints anyway!? nothing! These 'scientists' have been duped by this crass hoax and are now whoring themselves to the media for more funds. ;D I do hope nobody takes me seriously, but that the argument sounds familiar
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Post by bustosdomecq on Oct 21, 2008 11:17:25 GMT
Utah isn't in Liaoning ;D And it isn't a 'farmer' [sic] selling the 'drag marks' in eBay or in the black market illegally.
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Post by bustosdomecq on Oct 21, 2008 11:22:28 GMT
Of course it would be wise for somebody to indeed verify these drag marks were made by dinosaurs, and indeed not modern-day frauds, just as they should verify every major find. Neither should they make hypothesis based on fragmentary or unverified information, unlike the dubious intellectual exercises that the stork-quetzalcoatlus and the velociraptor quill knobs 'papers' were.
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Post by Dinotoyforum on Oct 21, 2008 11:51:44 GMT
oh no? rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=2&campid=5335874113&toolid=10001&customid=blob&ext=360033142945&item=360033142945This 'trace fossil' from the forgery factories in Utah is just one example of many 'blobby rocks' as I call them, selling on Ebay for ridiculous sums - this particular carving is going for $50! - for a carved rock! This new media hubbub surrounding these 'fossils' is music to the Utah hoaxers ears. They must be in stitches to see recognised scientists being duped by their crude carvings - even passing them on as 'new discoveries' to the media. You want verification of authenticity!? So do I! There is so much evidence that these are hoaxes - yet you presume they are real and worthy of verifying! These people couldn't verify an easily very verifiable thing with a verifying machine! You trust their verification? I don't! Especially given that they are shouting these discoveries from the rooftops - their research budgets will be bursting at the seams so they can continue describing 'blobby rocks'.
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Post by bustosdomecq on Oct 21, 2008 11:58:10 GMT
Your analogy is not en pointe ;D I rarely see any media hubbub about TRILOBITES ;D , and unlike Jack Horner no trilobite expert is going to be appointed consultant to a major movie franchise or receive major grants, no matter how high a rooftop he shouts. Which is why I use "dinosaurology" and not 'paleontology', since it is dinosaurs that get all the media attention. When was the last time a trilobite track made it onto the BBC? ;D
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Post by bustosdomecq on Oct 21, 2008 12:04:09 GMT
And at least Marjorie Chen has a paper that can be studied and judged, unlike, oh, Phil Manning and his edmontosaurus, or Mary Schweitzer when she broadcast her t-rex 'proteins', and so on. Yup, here we go again. ;D [j/k] Me, I'm just pleased the tail dragging sauropodomorphs (another article confirmed the tail drag marks were made by sauropodomorphs) are back in business.
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Post by bustosdomecq on Oct 21, 2008 12:08:19 GMT
Though if some journalist writes an article about hip-hop dinos Professor Chan will only have herself to blame and not the ignorant media ;D
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Post by Dinotoyforum on Oct 21, 2008 12:18:51 GMT
So. You think that because this particular hoax from utah is just a trilobite, the 'blobby dino' hoax prints are genuine? That's great logic. The hoaxers can call the blobs they carve whatever they like! Oh, and you think that news report was peer-reviewed? Sure the original article was, but not the news story. But you can get all your info there if you like.
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Post by Dinotoyforum on Oct 21, 2008 12:21:51 GMT
Yup, here we go again. ;D [j/k] Me, I'm just pleased the tail dragging sauropodomorphs (another article confirmed the tail drag marks were made by sauropodomorphs) are back in business. So verification of facts isn't high on your list of priorities after all? It's probably just a conpiracy by Invicta to relaunch their old figures. ;D
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Post by sbell on Oct 21, 2008 13:40:47 GMT
Yup, here we go again. ;D [j/k] Me, I'm just pleased the tail dragging sauropodomorphs (another article confirmed the tail drag marks were made by sauropodomorphs) are back in business. So verification of facts isn't high on your list of priorities after all? It's probably just a conpiracy by Invicta to relaunch their old figures. ;D I think we're all aware by now that fact verification is all he cares about--as long as it verifies the facts that he has decided are correct. It's curious that something hits the media, and he immediately seizes it as truth. Yet he only recently discussed about how we can't trust what dinosaurologists rush to the media. As an aside, what's with the triple posting? Can't a comment fit into one text box? It tends to cause the recent activity to disappear way too fast.
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Post by sid on Oct 21, 2008 16:43:33 GMT
Those tail drag marks could be true...Or could be not. But despite that (and,like Piltdown,i sincerely hope they are true,after all ),i still believe that dinosaurs,at least the biggest ones,could easily drag or put down their tails without dislocating god-knows-what,like some people say ;D
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Post by stoneage on Oct 21, 2008 21:23:40 GMT
;D I think if i'm going to spend $50 on a fake piece of carved rock, I'm going to want something that looks a whole lot better then that! ;D
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Oct 21, 2008 23:39:13 GMT
Why were these drag marks suddenly and mysteriously discovered in 2008! - why did nobody find these before - anywhere in the world!? hoax anyone? And why in America - just like the Paluxy River fake human prints - Americans have a history of forging trace fossils! This is suspicious - they are obviously hoaxes carved into the rock - this 'evidence' can't be trusted. And what does Professor Marjorie Chan, a sedimentologist, know about footprints anyway!? nothing! These 'scientists' have been duped by this crass hoax and are now whoring themselves to the media for more funds. HOAXES! Now every dinosaur that comes out of america is FAKE FAKE FAKE!!! DARN THOSE DINOSAUROLOGISTS!!!!
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Post by Anapsids on Oct 22, 2008 2:28:38 GMT
Under the pics it says "Dinosaur tail marks are rare". So they've discovered other marks before?
But even if it is a real tail marks, it can be either that the entire specie drag tails or only that some individual in the specie drag its tail.
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Post by Anapsids on Oct 22, 2008 2:30:24 GMT
Or even occasionally drag tail.
Sorry for double post. Just pop up.
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Post by Tyrannax on Oct 22, 2008 2:36:45 GMT
Or even occasionally drag tail. Sorry for double post. Just pop up. Double posting, you should be burned at the stake! Rofl J/K ;D This is obviously...fake.
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