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Post by sbell on Mar 19, 2009 3:24:36 GMT
I noticed this. Notice WS only sculpts Sauropods that look completely different from each other. There is more profit this way. People want variety in there toys, not a Brachiosaurus and Sauroposeidon for example. Not to go off too far on a tangent, but there's also this company called CollectA that is known for it's odd assortment of unique sauropods, and they did it first: Shunosaurus, Rebbachisaurus, Amargasaurus, Brachiosaurus and Agustinia are quite unique from each other. Plus this year's offerings: standing Rhoetosaurus, Cetiosaurus (the most 'generic' looking one they will make) and Paralititan. Great assortment, and very diverse in appearance. |
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Mar 19, 2009 14:11:52 GMT
M. Shirashi did that piece based on Keith Strasser's sculpt I posted above... heh Acros don't really look like Allos when you get down to it... to the casual observer they may look similar but Allo wasn't that heavy-bodied...and the skull is a bit diff too. I know, but at first glance, with just a small ridge, it could look like a funky allosaurus.  Yep, that's what I was thinking. |
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Mar 19, 2009 14:13:10 GMT
I noticed this. Notice WS only sculpts Sauropods that look completely different from each other. There is more profit this way. People want variety in there toys, not a Brachiosaurus and Sauroposeidon for example. Not to go off too far on a tangent, but there's also this company called CollectA that is known for it's odd assortment of unique sauropods, and they did it first: Shunosaurus, Rebbachisaurus, Amargasaurus, Brachiosaurus and Agustinia are quite unique from each other. Plus this year's offerings: standing Rhoetosaurus, Cetiosaurus (the most 'generic' looking one they will make) and Paralititan. Great assortment, and very diverse in appearance. For some reason that post made me laugh ;D |
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Mar 19, 2009 20:11:41 GMT
I can kind of see how Acros look like Allos I guess...I've been looking at both so long all I see is the details..heh
Kids want whatever looks cool to them...and being different is part of that. Safari started out only sculpting what's popular...now they are realizing diff is good to...I expect a redo of their Apatosaurus and Brachiosaurus at some point though the latter looks fine to me really. Collecta saw what others had done and took the next the step, they didn't have to learn...I just wonder how long they can keep it up... :/
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Post by tetonbabydoll on Mar 19, 2009 20:31:47 GMT
 On the other hand, if people were into "different", that does not explain why every stego, trike and rex sells like hotcakes. I know, they are popular, but every year someone puts one of each out, and they do sell. Beyond just the lil Timmy needs a dino factor, I think. And remember, this line is more for collectors, and not as much the "normal" person.
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Mar 20, 2009 0:18:51 GMT
They sell...I don't know how well... I can speak for myself... I'm pretty selective.. I only get a same species if it's more detailed, represented differently, has an alternative pose for example Stego : nuetral standing pose, tail raised/bellowing fight pose, front legs raised/reaching for food pose, new juvenile standing on hind legs pose. Once I have all those in good detailed figures I'm done. Even a collecter needs some difference...if every Tyrannosaur looked pretty much the same, with the same scale pattern, same sculpt..you wouldn't have much to look at... diff poses help...but those creative licenses matter a bit..one big reason I liked Papo's Allo..  ...compare him with Safari's .. same species..but totally diff looks...both are beautiful in their own way though. |
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Post by Tyrannax on Mar 25, 2009 4:02:55 GMT
I noticed this. Notice WS only sculpts Sauropods that look completely different from each other. There is more profit this way. People want variety in there toys, not a Brachiosaurus and Sauroposeidon for example. Not to go off too far on a tangent, but there's also this company called CollectA that is known for it's odd assortment of unique sauropods, and they did it first: Shunosaurus, Rebbachisaurus, Amargasaurus, Brachiosaurus and Agustinia are quite unique from each other. Plus this year's offerings: standing Rhoetosaurus, Cetiosaurus (the most 'generic' looking one they will make) and Paralititan. Great assortment, and very diverse in appearance. You just listed Sauropods with very unique looks. I gave an example of Brachiosaurus and Sauroposeidon. They really do look almost identical. . |
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Mar 26, 2009 0:51:56 GMT
Not to go off too far on a tangent, but there's also this company called CollectA that is known for it's odd assortment of unique sauropods, and they did it first: Shunosaurus, Rebbachisaurus, Amargasaurus, Brachiosaurus and Agustinia are quite unique from each other. Plus this year's offerings: standing Rhoetosaurus, Cetiosaurus (the most 'generic' looking one they will make) and Paralititan. Great assortment, and very diverse in appearance. You just listed Sauropods with very unique looks. I gave an example of Brachiosaurus and Sauroposeidon. They really do look almost identical. . Those still look pretty different. Besides, don't we not know what sauroposeidon even looks like? Isn't it a wastebasket taxon? |
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Mar 26, 2009 1:08:01 GMT
Is Supersaurus the longest ? If so..we still need a figure of the tallest...and that's Argentinosaurus right ?
I wonder...
You know how people go to cities and look up at the buildings going all " ooohh" and " aaahhh "..... anyone think smaller Dinosaurs did the same thing ? Going all " rrroooaaarr " and " ggrroowwlll " when coming upon these behemoths.. ? ;D
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Post by Meso-Cenozoic on Mar 26, 2009 4:51:28 GMT
I think the tallest would be Ultrasaurus or maybe Sauroposeidon, both are related to the Brachi. Some think they are maybe just extra large Brachis! I think the longest is still in dispute, because they don't have any complete skeletons from some of them as of yet. I think the three best contenders for the longest so far are: Seismosaurus (a larger cousin of the Diplo) Supersaurus (an XL cousin of the Apato) and the giant South American sauropod, Argentinosaurus There are also some other really huge rare specimens, but I think they really don't have much to go on. Check out the graph below...   Take a look at the Amphicoelias fragillimus! How big a fella do you think he is???  |
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Mar 26, 2009 5:49:35 GMT
Okay.....I hadn't even heard of those top two... wonder if Malcolm wants to try that really HUGE fellow...lol He'd be what...over 6 feet long in 1/40 ? Heh heh hehehehhh.... ;D
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Post by Meso-Cenozoic on Mar 26, 2009 5:53:15 GMT
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Post by Tyrannax on Mar 26, 2009 7:17:14 GMT
Hmm...a sauropod larger than Argentinasaurus..
No Cordy. Sauroposeidon is a very, very close relative, if not a Brachiosaurus. There is little to no difference, so it would be silly to make a figure on both if they want variety.
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Post by timlee3005 on Mar 26, 2009 7:52:57 GMT
Unfortunately,the very largest sauropods are not known well enough to reconstruct without a lot of guesswork involved.
I would rather see something more well known along the lines of Apatosaurus,Diplodocus,Camarasaurus,Brachiosaurus or something like that.
I remember tracks found of sauropods (maybe Pleurocoelus or Astrodon) that seemed to have been stalked by a large therodod much like (or actually was) Acrocanthosaurus.
How was that for suddenly jumping back to Acrocanthosaurus?
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Mar 26, 2009 9:22:25 GMT
I was trying to think of a way to jump back in the point of this thread myself...lol
I wouldn't mind a Astrodon and later a couple Utahraptors... call all four the Raptor Red Set... ;D
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Mar 26, 2009 20:06:56 GMT
I was trying to think of a way to jump back in the point of this thread myself...lol I wouldn't mind a Astrodon and later a couple Utahraptors... call all four the Raptor Red Set... ;D Don't forget kronosaurus and white pterosaur! ;D |
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Mar 26, 2009 20:20:50 GMT
The Krono would be nice...but the white Ptero is a must...how could I forget about him..lol ...and Raptor chicks ! No one to my knowledge has done a full Raptor Pack/ family group before.... maybe even get Bakker's blessing so it could be official...licensing works after all.. |
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Mar 26, 2009 20:58:01 GMT
I think that a raptor "family group" would be nice... Either they are all on a base, or on separate bases that "lock" together.. A few chicks, and adult or two, a juvenile.... |
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Post by timlee3005 on Mar 26, 2009 21:01:27 GMT
The Krono would be nice...but the white Ptero is a must...how could I forget about him..lol ...and Raptor chicks ! No one to my knowledge has done a full Raptor Pack/ family group before.... maybe even get Bakker's blessing so it could be official...licensing works after all.. Nah,since Bakker doesn't own a copyright on Utahraptor,his blessing isn't really needed. ;D Speaking of Utahraptor,that's really the only dromaeosaur I can think of that can be done in 1/40th scale without being tiny,unlike Deinonychus,a contemporary of Acrocanthosaurus. |
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Post by sbell on Mar 26, 2009 21:37:47 GMT
The Krono would be nice...but the white Ptero is a must...how could I forget about him..lol ...and Raptor chicks ! No one to my knowledge has done a full Raptor Pack/ family group before.... maybe even get Bakker's blessing so it could be official...licensing works after all.. Nah,since Bakker doesn't own a copyright on Utahraptor,his blessing isn't really needed. ;D Speaking of Utahraptor,that's really the only dromaeosaur I can think of that can be done in 1/40th scale without being tiny,unlike Deinonychus,a contemporary of Acrocanthosaurus. It's more like a marketing tool--Bob Bakker approves this set! It would be like having Phil Currie's approval on a T.rex figure...Malcolm, contact me ;D |
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On the other hand, if people were into "different", that does not explain why every stego, trike and rex sells like hotcakes. I know, they are popular, but every year someone puts one of each out, and they do sell. Beyond just the lil Timmy needs a dino factor, I think. And remember, this line is more for collectors, and not as much the "normal" person.
...compare him with Safari's .. same species..but totally diff looks...both are beautiful in their own way though. 
