1/40 Acrocanthosaurus- Released

[[][][]cordylus[][][]]

Apr 3, 2009 21:41:25 GMT Tyrannax said:

I am talking of mainly Carnosaurs like Allosaurus and Acrocanthosaurus. One Carnosaur had a rip in its arm. (Was it Big Al?) Besides the theory that the animal had been in a fight with its own species, another theory is the arm was torn while trying to wrestle prey. Allosaurs' arms would have been much to weak to hold animals of its own size down if they were in the situation of fighting, or being eaten alive. Thrashing would have been a main means of escape if an Allosaurus were to try to hold one down. And the prey, depending on the size, could easily injure the arm in the process. The enlarged claw on each hand may have been used for slashing versus holding.

Good for allosaurus. I am talking about acro, let's leave all other "carnosaurs" out of this.



Here is what they are thought of doing: A acro sees a food item. He watches it from the safety of the trees, and then he ambushes it. It doesn't see it coming. The acro quickly grabs onto the food item and pulls it close, while it uses it's jaws to tear the heck out of it's prey. Prey dies in matter of seconds, acro starts to eat.

Acros arms had a very strong and powefull backwards stroke. It's arms most likely wouldn't have been injured.

Big al was an inexperienced juvenile. After all, he tripped and broke his toe which led to his death. He isn't a very good example. ;D

There. That is what is most commonly thought, if you have evidence to the contrary, post it please.

[Tyrannax]

You're saying Acrocanthosaurus was so different from Allosaurus they cannot be compared at all? Umm....why do you think this?

So you set up a fake scenario and you're all of a sudden correct? No Cordylus, it is not that simple. The prey animal is not unwary! And most of the time, if large enough, can fight back and cause harm.

It's arms were large, but most certainly vulnerable. It's arms could easily have been harmed. They were not indestructible, and many animals were more than strong enough to brake a limb in the process of the struggle.

I was talking about his arm, not toe.

Prove to me I am wrong.

[dinonikes]

Don't argue about the Acro's arms CT and T-Rex- my Acro model isn't going to have arms anyways so no sense arguing about it-

[tomhet]

*chuckles*

[[][][]cordylus[][][]]

Apr 4, 2009 8:40:18 GMT Tyrannax said:

You're saying Acrocanthosaurus was so different from Allosaurus they cannot be compared at all? Umm....why do you think this?

So you set up a fake scenario and you're all of a sudden correct? No Cordylus, it is not that simple. The prey animal is not unwary! And most of the time, if large enough, can fight back and cause harm.

It's arms were large, but most certainly vulnerable. It's arms could easily have been harmed. They were not indestructible, and many animals were more than strong enough to brake a limb in the process of the struggle.

I was talking about his arm, not toe.

Prove to me I am wrong.

I am sincerely sorry for going with what the fossils tell us. You seem to be quite the expert on acrocanthosaurus, tell me, what color were they? Did they smell like rotten meat? Or cabbage maybe? And how did they eat their steaks, rare or blackened? ;D

[tomhet]

Guys, please stop it, dinonikes' model will reflect the accurate shape and size of the arms. How they used it, that's another matter.

[[][][]cordylus[][][]]

Apr 4, 2009 18:23:50 GMT @tomhet said:

Guys, please stop it, dinonikes' model will reflect the accurate shape and size of the arms. How they used it, that's another matter.

So no neck scratching

[tomhet]

Hopefully not ;D But that's for Malcolm to decide

[dinonikes]

I told you- it won't have any arms - they got ripped off when he tried giving a bear hug to a real feisty herbivore who just ripped them off cause they were so delicate- before that he was scratching his rear end with them- as he couldn't reach his itchy nose and had to scratch something-

[[][][]cordylus[][][]]

Apr 4, 2009 22:08:13 GMT dinonikes said:

I told you- it won't have any arms - they got ripped off when he tried giving a bear hug to a real feisty herbivore who just ripped them off cause they were so delicate- before that he was scratching his rear end with them- as he couldn't reach his itchy nose and had to scratch something-

;D

[Tyrannax]

Smell and Color? When did I mention this?

Base the figure off of a scenario including a titanium armed Acrocanthosaurus by Cordylus. In no way could a theropod have its arms injured from a struggling animals its own size.

I'm sorry I disagreed CT, Acrocanthosaurus was invulnerable.

[[][][]cordylus[][][]]

Apr 5, 2009 2:38:32 GMT Tyrannax said:

Smell and Color? When did I mention this?

Base the figure off of a scenario including a titanium armed Acrocanthosaurus by Cordylus. In no way could a theropod have its arms injured from a struggling animals its own size.

I'm sorry I disagreed CT, Acrocanthosaurus was invulnerable.

*refers tyrannax to above posts by tomhet and dinonikes*

[Tyrannax]

*Pokes CT* You win this round mister, but I'll be looming the shadows. ;D

But seriously, can't wait to see the final product dinonikes.

[dinonikes]

here is the clay roughed in-

[kuni]

Love it - a classic theropod pose, and the arms seem appropriately positioned for grabbing. I'm predicting Malcolm will produce the first Acro toy that trumps the Battat!

I can't think of any particularly useful criticism, though I'm not an Acro fanatic - perhaps others will have input.

[Tyrannax]

Amazing start! Is this going to be hard, as in a model or statue, or will it be flexible and have rubber feel?

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I think he said they were going to like the Invicta pieces...hard, solid plastic..with little flexibility, T-Rex.

Well right now it pretty much trumps the Safari piece..though that's not saying much..lol

In the two top pics, it looks like the lower jaw is too short...but the last two it looks fine...maybe it's the angle ?

[kuni]

Yeah, it does look like either the lower jaw is too short, or stays too chunky near the end of the dentary. Unless Acro had a massive overbite, it'll need to be elongated.



I'm going to be heretical and suggest a closed mouth - the "open mouth snarl" is a classic American dino pose, but we don't need it for every dino, and it saves Malcolm from having to mould teeth.

[[][][]cordylus[][][]]

I think I would prefer an acro with an open mouth first... After an open mouth one, he could make a closed mouth one... Kind of like the Sue series by safari...



The arms look great ;D Nice job on them so far, the whole figure is already better than the carnegie ;D Although I see one small problem... It appears as though the shin bones run right into the toes, as if there is no "foot"... Is is just the angle of the pictures?

[Tyrannax]

Also, it seems the left hip may be lower than the right. I compared picture two to picture 4 and the right hip does not have a gap from it and the spine, while the left hip does.

It may be the angle.