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Post by dinonikes on Mar 19, 2009 17:07:47 GMT
Nothing started yet- cut out the parts for the armature-need to assemble the armature- just thought I'd start up the thread to get your reaction here instead of elsewhere-
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Post by gastonia on Mar 19, 2009 17:31:38 GMT
Can't wait to see the first pics of this big beast. Just a question: do you think to do it with a dorsal ridge (I mean like the WWD Diplodocus)? I'd prefer the model with a dorsal ridge, but I don't know if there are problems in moulding. Good work! I will contact you soon, since I think I'll do a big order...  Ciao! Marco |
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Mar 19, 2009 19:51:46 GMT
That Shoni idea got you jumping for bigger pieces eh ? My checkbook might be disappointed..but not me... ;D
I'd have to agree... it took awhile for me to warm up to the idea...but the ridge and row of spines down the back seems pretty awesome to me now...heh
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Post by tetonbabydoll on Mar 19, 2009 20:24:59 GMT
I like the spines too, but what is the evidence all sauropods had them. I know the backbone had a ridge, but what about actual spines projecting? I like the diplo with them, but not really the apato. Does that make any dang sense??
My biggest pet peeve with the sauropods are chunky legs and feet, and skimping on the length, especially the tail. I know that a true 1/40 sauropod will cost, but would be totally worth it.
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Mar 19, 2009 20:51:00 GMT
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Post by tetonbabydoll on Mar 19, 2009 21:00:47 GMT
 I get a 404 error for that link. Maybe later I will do some research, but i am out of steam for now. Ciao!
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Post by dinonikes on Mar 19, 2009 23:05:03 GMT
Yes that is the drawing I referred to- it got me excited to see the views from all sides of it and made me decide to take it on - I also got the Acro skeleton from the same site and printed out most of the ones he has there for future- these type images are what I like to starrt with the most- a good side view of the skeleton with the flesh outlined in black- I think Gregory Paul was the first to do these type illustrations, at the suggestion of Bakker- |
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Mar 19, 2009 23:06:59 GMT
I like the spines too, but what is the evidence all sauropods had them. I know the backbone had a ridge, but what about actual spines projecting? I like the diplo with them, but not really the apato. Does that make any dang sense?? My biggest pet peeve with the sauropods are chunky legs and feet, and skimping on the length, especially the tail. I know that a true 1/40 sauropod will cost, but would be totally worth it. There have been many fossils of spines found near/attached to sauropod fossils in the USA. So many, that, it is assumed that most sauropods had them. |
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Post by dinonikes on Mar 19, 2009 23:11:57 GMT
I kind of assumed that there would be spines along the back- as that seems to be the standard way of depicting diplos and their kin- would be an interesting feature to run your fingers along- for all of that long long length-
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Mar 20, 2009 0:24:02 GMT
Found a fleshed out Supersaurus on his site as well that should settle it ..lol  |
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Mar 20, 2009 0:26:28 GMT
I love the muscle definition...I guess some might call it emaciated looking...the recent wounds are a nice addition as well...  |
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Post by dinonikes on Mar 20, 2009 3:19:33 GMT
Man this piece is gonna be big- got the armature made and it is 33 inches in length- it is sort of interesting that it isn't real wide in the body, it will use a lot of material to cast, but not as much as I had originally thought- now that I can 'see' the piece I can sort of judge the volume better - still gonna be a higher end piece as far as the line is concerned though- really dwarfs that Ophthalmosaur sitting near it on my workbench-lol -this one is gonna be cool-always wanted to sculpt a sauropod but never have- will post photos of the armature tomorrow night- gotta get to bed now- up early in the morn
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Post by tomhet on Mar 20, 2009 3:42:52 GMT
dinonikes, I hope you don't make it look emaciated ;D I'd love to see a healthy sauropod ;D
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Post by tomhet on Mar 20, 2009 4:18:16 GMT
And the ridge along the back was probably to anchor the leg muscles so the 50 ton creature could budge |
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Post by timlee3005 on Mar 20, 2009 4:30:12 GMT
dinonikes, I hope you don't make it look emaciated ;D I'd love to see a healthy sauropod ;D And I'd like to see the nostrils placed down close to the front of the snout,rather than on top of it's head ,though that's really just my personal preference. |
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Post by bokisaurus on Mar 20, 2009 4:47:27 GMT
;D  ;D You just know how to make us all happy! ;D I hope you will make the supersaurus, I would love to have one. How on earth do you package and send a figure that long? As for the neural spines, well the WWD "popularized" it. However, some are found very close to where the hips are, so there is some speculations that the spines don't run from head to tail tip, but from the hips down to the tail. The Toyway diplo figure is the only figure that I know of that has this "half" neural spines, and the only toy figure that I know of that has the WWD look is the TS toys figure. I like the spiked back look personally ;D |
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Post by Meso-Cenozoic on Mar 20, 2009 5:29:28 GMT
Alright, now we're talkin'! I've been wanting to find a full 1/40 scale giant long-neck for I don't know how long! Spines -- Yes, definitely include them on the neck, back and tail! The fleshed out part of the tail on the skeletal drawing looks to skimpy to me. I see this on some drawings and it doesn't seem right to me. They never seem to leave enough room for the massive muscles that go further out on the tail. The skinny whip-like part of the tail should only be more towards the end. In his drawing, Hartman has the tail vertebrae nearly touching the top and bottom of the flesh throughout. I think the skin on top would rest more closely on top of the caudal vertebrae, but underneath, there should be left more room for the mass of muscles and skin throughout most of the tail until the whip-like end. Anyway, I don't think you'd make the tail too skinny throughout. It would make it too fragile! I am so psyched about this project. Can you tell? LOL! Can't wait to see the first pics of this guy!!! Oh, wow, just noticed that you said it was 33 inches! Sure you couldn't make it an even 3 feet? HaHaHa! |
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Mar 20, 2009 6:14:29 GMT
You can ship anything.. but some kind of carved foam packing or foam piece taped around the fragile sections might work..cross that bridge when you come to it I guess. Are thinking of trying to roto-cast this sucker ? I know you were condsidering with the Shoni...weight prob won't be too bad anyway...33'' and most of that is tail and neck...though he might be 36" instead...I was looking at the Safari Giga he's around 12" long and what 40 feet in length ? And Supersaurus is 120 feet ? So 12x3= 36 " long ..... not to mention " A FULL 3 FEET ! " would look great on an ad... |
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Post by dinonikes on Mar 20, 2009 10:56:39 GMT
Well as for the length- I just scaled up the drawing til the meter mark on the drawing was an inch and that came out to 33 inches- i guess that is what it will be as I already made the armature- that must be the size of the Jimbo or whatever skeleton that the drawing was made from-
As for packing this piece(really the least of my worries about this piece at this point-lol)- I have sent out pieces bigger than this - the Ichthyostega model i sell is 34inches in length- I am a fanatic when it comes to packing- during my run on ebay i sent out over three hundred packages without ant damage- all i ever use is newspapers, which i find are the best(and cheapest) pakcing material to use- i wrap the model in plastic first so the newsprint won't rub off on the model-
i agree that the tail always seems to be too thin- will probably beef up the tail end a bit- will also make it much easier to cast as well, best excuse to add a bit of bulk that there could be-
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Post by Meso-Cenozoic on Mar 20, 2009 11:22:16 GMT
Well, I just measured what 33" would look like up on one of my collection shelves where I have alot of my sauropods, AND IT'S HUGE! And, advertising it as "Almost 3 Feet in Length!" still sounds really impressive! You don't know how excited I am with this, Malcolm. I've been waiting it seems like forever to get a true, full 1/40 scale of one of these big guys! And, with an added bonus of a great sculpt on top of it!! I wonder which one of us sauropod lovers will get the first one? Hmmm? Maybe Boki, or Blade, or, let me see, MEEEEEE!!! Whatever it takes, I am getting one of the first ones available. I just know it's gonna be a fantastic piece (no pressure of course, lol)! BTW, my birthday is May 31st and it's a BIG one this year!. Ugh!! I'm sure you'll have some by then, right?!  |
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I get a 404 error for that link. Maybe later I will do some research, but i am out of steam for now. Ciao!![[][][]cordylus[][][] Avatar](http://files.sharenator.com/Troll_Face_U_MAD_RE_wrestling_1-s407x405-126802.jpg)
;D You just know how to make us all happy! ;D I hope you will make the supersaurus, I would love to have one.
