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Post by arioch on Aug 18, 2011 23:10:30 GMT
I've read several posts where people complain the Dinos are acting too human...I can see how they think that..but it doesn't seem too out there for me. Feels a lot like reading Delgado's AoR series. The head getting chomped was hilarious..but I also figure that she prob would have just ate the whole thing or carried it back to the nest to feed the chicks. I can only guess she was so upset food didn't matter at that point..some animals do kill for reasons other than food though. Considering how good the dinosaurs look I guess I was hoping for something more akin to an actual documentary and less like a graphic novel or cartoon. Non-believable behavior like that just reminds me that I'm not watching the real thing. I realize animals don't just kill for food by I find it unlikely that an allosaur accustomed to the calling animals of the night would even pay the creature any notice. Animals don't need to be humanized in order to entertain. Watching things like Big Cat Diary or any David Attenborough documentary I find myself totally engrossed in the lives of the animal stars without all the sensational BS. I'm not discounting "Revolution" completely though. The rahonavis story looks promising as does the one with the torvo (though more back story is required). I liked the tyrannosaur battle more than less, I thought the one individual taking a crap was actually a nice and believable addition. I also like the lack of narration. Agreed. I´m personallly very tired of seeing dinosaurs depicted in media as either horror monsters or kind monsters with humanized behaviour aimed to kids amusement (and this is basically why a lot of people don´t take paleontology seriously or think dinosaurs are for children). I want them to be portrayed for what they really were : ANIMALS. Walking with Dinosaurs, with all its flaws was an step further in that direction. Seems like this is an step back. That said, I appreciate the entertaining value of this production, the great quality of the models and the jokes, but I consider a pity the approaching they chosed and how they wasted another opportunity to show the world what (non avian) dinosaurs really were like. |
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Aug 19, 2011 0:13:42 GMT
 Thanks guys. Yes, this is a very different approach to storytelling with prehistoric animals. It is not what people are used to so you may find yourself liking one way or the other. Thats not a bad thing, its just different. Man I love the Pterosaur story. Excellent job on that one. And who can go wrong with big, dumb, shroom eating dinosaurs? lol. And they work without narration. I really wanna see the rest of the Pterosaur sequence... Cool. I'm also reminded of Bakker's Raptor Red watching these...it has a lot of the same feel. I can imagine if the RR film was ever made it would be like this. I had some great music going through my head watching them fall down that hill.. lol ;D I also have to agree with the baby Ptero..given the previous attempts..this just ain't the day to leave the nest.. |
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Post by stoneage on Aug 19, 2011 1:15:16 GMT
I guess I know what a bad trip is now! I was expecting a educational documentary more like WWD, which would have been great even with less narration. Instead I get slap-stick style looney tunes. Why call it Dinosaur Revolution? Why go to the trouble to get great Paleo-Artist to help illustrate this when "Land Before Time" animation would have worked just as well with this laugh fest. Did you hear the laughter? Are they going to use canned laughter for this? This could either be a big hit or a complete disastor. They can always show it at the midnight movies for the stoners. How do they expect the public to take Paleontology seriously? |
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Post by dinohunter000 on Aug 19, 2011 2:50:23 GMT
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Post by Sparkleopteryx on Aug 19, 2011 3:29:58 GMT
Oh yeah, it will be split as to who enjoy's it and who doesn't But that's to be expected and is completely fine. Yeah, Raptor Red is a good thing to compare it to. I would love to see that book made into a film! Although I think the no narration part would still be a tough thing to get too happen. Poor David, lol! Aren't they going to show one of the other story artists along with you?  I can't wait to see this story and how the dinos turned out in that one. |
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Post by dinohunter000 on Aug 19, 2011 3:38:58 GMT
All of these stories are turning out fantastic. I can perfectly imagine the Rahonavis story in my head The accuracy of the dinosaurs is also the other thing that's getting me ramped up for this Revolution! Haha..ha..ha...oh....... |
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Post by Himmapaan on Aug 19, 2011 3:56:12 GMT
The laughter in those clips is that of the convention audience, of course.
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Post by Sparkleopteryx on Aug 19, 2011 4:21:03 GMT
Oh, yes, the laughter and/or any comments are the audience and panel (this is Comic Con stuff) and won't be in the story. And this was the non-narrated version too. First time I've seen the Anhang. story and I actually think that is one of my favs so far. I completely got sucked into that one and didn't expect too as I'm not really into Pterosaurs, but that did it for me.
Why was the name changed anyway? I''m not sure, but I *think* it had to do with some outside tie-in with something or other. Now that sentence made no sense. I'm not to sure on that one.
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Post by sbell on Aug 19, 2011 5:32:26 GMT
I guess I know what a bad trip is now! I was expecting a educational documentary more like WWD, which would have been great even with less narration. Instead I get slap-stick style looney tunes. Why call it Dinosaur Revolution? Why go to the trouble to get great Paleo-Artist to help illustrate this when "Land Before Time" animation would have worked just as well with this laugh fest. Did you hear the laughter? Are they going to use canned laughter for this? This could either be a big hit or a complete disastor. They can always show it at the midnight movies for the stoners. How do they expect the public to take Paleontology seriously? They don't. |
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Post by bokisaurus on Aug 19, 2011 5:54:06 GMT
Oh yeah, it will be split as to who enjoy's it and who doesn't But that's to be expected and is completely fine. Yeah, Raptor Red is a good thing to compare it to. I would love to see that book made into a film! Although I think the no narration part would still be a tough thing to get too happen. Poor David, lol! Aren't they going to show one of the other story artists along with you? I can't wait to see this story and how the dinos turned out in that one. Show look interesting for sure, very different! LOL! ;D Hey Angie, was the druggie sauropod one of your paint work? When I saw it, it totally remained me of of how you painted your Shapeways figures. |
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Post by Sparkleopteryx on Aug 19, 2011 6:07:23 GMT
Shroomosaurus is indeed mine, lol. The model and the texture paint. You can usually spot mine if they look like they were painted by someone totally insane when it comes to pattern. Actually, now that I think of it I painted the Sinraptors chasing him too. Forgot about those guys. Oh yeah, it will be split as to who enjoy's it and who doesn't But that's to be expected and is completely fine. Yeah, Raptor Red is a good thing to compare it to. I would love to see that book made into a film! Although I think the no narration part would still be a tough thing to get too happen. Poor David, lol! Aren't they going to show one of the other story artists along with you? I can't wait to see this story and how the dinos turned out in that one. Show look interesting for sure, very different! LOL! ;D Hey Angie, was the druggie sauropod one of your paint work? When I saw it, it totally remained me of of how you painted your Shapeways figures.
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Post by Pangolinmoth on Aug 19, 2011 6:13:38 GMT
It's very interesting reading everyone's thoughts on this. While I agree that the lack of a more serious tone (at least in the clips) is disappointing, the kid in me is beyond thrilled. I love great stories. I love good drama. I love campy slapstick schticks. To me this is Delgado's Age Of Reptiles in the flesh. Just fantastic. And the DINOSAURS!!! That is easily the coolest looking Rex I have ever seen on film. The Miragaia!! Stunning!! Everything I have seen thus far has been just great. I would of course love to see a dinosaur documentary come out that was intelligent and serious. It's due time and with all the new information out there it would make for an excellent program. I'm not a fan of the recent discovery channel shows like JFC or COTD, that type of mindless sensationalism is dull and insulting to the rich history of the dinosaurs. I feel Dinosaur Revolution embodies the art of story telling and the science of dinosaurs in a fantastic way. And as you can tell by my rant, I'm really excited to see the finished product. And since I know they are on the forum, Huge applause from me for creating something as fantastic as this.
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Post by sid on Aug 20, 2011 9:37:26 GMT
Just seen the last clips... What can i say? I TOTALLY agree with Pangolinmoth! I mean, kickass CG, probably the best movie/tv T.rex restoration since JP, believable behaviors ( i don't think they're too "humanized"... Heck, just look at modern animals and their extremely wide range of behaviors), a lil' bit of humor (poor Ornitholestes ;D), hopefully great storylines (it's basically "Age of Reptiles" on screen!), what could go wrong? After so many crappy pseudo-documentaries about our favorite critters, it's simply AWESOME to see dinosaurs come back again in full form!  |
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Post by camara on Aug 20, 2011 13:53:40 GMT
So.........this is a dinosaur comedy...........now I am even more hyped about Planet Dinosaur.... |
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Post by arioch on Aug 20, 2011 14:37:19 GMT
, believable behaviors ( i don't think they're too "humanized"... Heck, just look at modern animals and their extremely wide range of behaviors), Which animals behave like that Anhanguera? |
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Post by camara on Aug 20, 2011 15:07:25 GMT
, believable behaviors ( i don't think they're too "humanized"... Heck, just look at modern animals and their extremely wide range of behaviors), Which animals behave like that Anhanguera? Humans. |
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Post by Griffin on Aug 20, 2011 15:15:06 GMT
Hmmm interesting. I think if they toned down the human-like behaviors a tiny bit it would be perfect. They look spectacular regardless.
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Post by sid on Aug 20, 2011 17:21:41 GMT
, believable behaviors ( i don't think they're too "humanized"... Heck, just look at modern animals and their extremely wide range of behaviors), Which animals behave like that Anhanguera? I'm speaking in general regarding this series (as far as i've seen)... Of course i know the Anhanguera and the Allo/Ornitholestes clips were mainly on the "artistic license" side; notheless, they're not too far out the realm of a realistic (if somewhat stretched) behaviour ;D By the way, there's a post on Art Evolved about the tendency of many of us dino-fans to be too much nitpicky... Check it out, it's a pretty interesting analysis which i agree! blogevolved.blogspot.com/2011/08/philosofossilising-scientific-accuracy.html |
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Post by arioch on Aug 20, 2011 17:36:34 GMT
Yeah, but they complain about the nitpickism on their creations anatomy. The lack of feathers in some animals more concretely, and at some point that´s excusable ( at least I can forgive it) given their budget and todays CGI limitations. The goofy human behaviour seems more like a corporative idea rather than an intentional or unintentional "flaw" , there´s little to nitpick there since that´s just meant to make us laugh. Check this out. If this isnt being a douche I dont know what is: vonshollywood.blogspot.com/2011/08/going-up.html I think take criticism is part of the job when you´re recreating real animals. That attitude is totally uncalled for. . |
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Post by gwangi on Aug 20, 2011 20:42:11 GMT
I've watched the additional clips and actually enjoyed the one with the shroom eating sauropod, the pterosaur one not so much. The fact that the inspiration for the pterosaur clip was drawn from Loony Toons says it all in my opinion. I understand DR was made for entertainment first as is the case with all documentaries but with dinosaurs that look so real it would be nice to see behavior to match. This almost seems like a big budget cartoon.I'm starting to get used to the idea that this won't be the documentary I thought it was, I'm still going to watch it but I truly hope these attempts at slap stick don't make up the entire series.
I also read Sholly's blog posts yesterday. I couldn't believe what I read on his blog, I understand being protective of your work but seriously, the guy needs to chill out and learn to take some criticism. I love how in one blog post he writes "if some people had their way I think you would see a show where a bunch of animals just stood around and did nothing- the way animals really do most of the time. Three people would love it and everyone else would go to sleep."
Really? That is why nature documentaries have been successful for how long? Big Cat Diary ran for over a decade and was never dull. Of course he goes on to say... "I have some bad news for people who bemoan Dino Revo for not showing our prehistoric cast "acting like real animals" enough. For one thing I don't think you know diddley about how "real animals" act. We watched lots and lots of nature shows and documentaries and real animals do insanely crazy funny stuff as well as many things you would never believe if you didn't see them."
Wow, really? I don't even know what to say to that.
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Thanks guys. Yes, this is a very different approach to storytelling with prehistoric animals. It is not what people are used to so you may find yourself liking one way or the other. Thats not a bad thing, its just different.
I can't wait to see this story and how the dinos turned out in that one.
