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Post by Mauro "Raptor86" on Dec 23, 2011 1:36:12 GMT
n never have too many, lol... Question: Do the sauropods have moveable jaws??? . I don't think so
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Post by stoneage on Dec 23, 2011 2:16:59 GMT
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Dec 23, 2011 2:27:05 GMT
the Rex is a def improvement for Schleich, and the paint schemes are def a step up if the actual product turns out this way.. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) it's clear they copied Papo in a few spots and that's lending to the improvements of the look. That trike looks like a 4th grader sculpted it.
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Post by Seijun on Dec 23, 2011 4:51:27 GMT
*SIGH* What a horror show. I guess Schleich is strictly aiming for the kiddie market. The only one remotely likeable figure is the repainted Quetzalcoatlus (although the erroneous position of the too-short neck, as well as the too short and misshaped head is still there...) Well in that case there are a lot of little shop of horrors out there ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) altough i like the trex most out of schleich. I do not understand why there is so little safari ltd here. When you ask sellers about it they say schleich is best and safari Ltd is ugly. I don't understand that attitude. Schleichs tend to be bigger figures than safari. They also look like they are built more more little kid play. So, I might be able to understand why a store would prefer Schleichs just for play value, but to say they are more aesthetically pleasing as well??
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Post by zopteryx on Dec 23, 2011 4:52:40 GMT
Schleich has made a tiny step forward. Tiny. I agree. Compared to their old figures, they have made some major improvements, but they're still not in the same league as Safari and CollectA. They are, however, closing in on Bullyland and (to a lesser degree) Papo. The Rex is much better, but the Trike is very poor. There's something about the new raptor I like, despite its glaring inaccuracies. I probably still won't buy it, but I wouldn't turn it down if it was a gift! ;D The rest are still meh, except for their color schemes, which must be Schleich's biggest improvement. The Quetz is especially nice, even if the wing-pattern looks just like that from the flying-dragon-things in Avatar. If only they had fixed its head and neck. I still have hope that they will produce a half decent unusual dinosaur in 2012 or 2013 though! ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) So, where's Bullyland? They're not going to let Schleich beat them this year are they?
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Post by tanystropheus on Dec 23, 2011 6:08:38 GMT
What's up with the sauropod (s) in the room? Why do we ALWAYS pretend as if they don't exist, whenever the topic of Schleich is brought up.
Yes, I realize the Apatosaurus is all sorts of retro goodness (read: inaccurate), but that paint job is killer---It is also quite graceful, and an aesthetically pleasant model.
I've always loved the Schleich Brachiosaurus. In my opinion it was their best. Why is there no love for the Brachiosaurus?? 2012 is going to be a great year for Brachio fans. The only problem w/ Schleich's previous Brachiosaurus (other than the peculiar, evil grimace) is the drab black & grey colors. The new paint job is closer to the CollectA Argentinosaurus. Plus, it looks like they've actually changed the neck to appear like the Carnegie Brachiosaurus.
I don't believe CollectA is quite at the level of Safari. If you look carefully at their 2012 line, their models range from perfection (Deinocheirus, Theriz, Megacerops), to near perfection (Doli, 1:15 Trike), to medium-high quality (T-rex, Neo, Mapu?), medium quality (the ceratopsians), last wave (Miragia), low quality (Neanderthal) ,repaint (Stegosaurus, Trike) and diorama level. CollectA is literally all over the place. They have been very inconsistent, despite their renaissance. If they can manage to get all their models at the level of Deinocheirus/Theri, they will beat Safari Ltd. in 2013.
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Post by itstwentybelow on Dec 23, 2011 6:22:42 GMT
What?!
Schleich takes a year off to supposedly "revamp" their dinosaurs, and we end up with this crap?? I had more than a shred of hope that they might actually produce something halfway decent. All of you saying that these figures are even a slight improvement are being way too generous in my opinion. There is no improvement here. If anything a step back, especially that stupid looking Triceratops. Even their first fat gray Trike from the early 90s is better. I see a slew of repaints of already terrible figures (except that Para, which is oddly very good) and the addition of a few new but no less terrible figures. This company has a looooong way to go to even be on par with itself at the time the Shonisaurus was produced.
My god they couldn't even get the hinged mandibles right. Look at the ugly tooth-shaped notches on the Allosaur's lower jaw where the teeth from the upper jaw fit! Disgusting. We're still getting naked raptors and it's almost 2012? Asinine.
Schleich are a bunch of idiots. Idiots, idiots, idiots. Well at least that's money I don't feel the need to spend.
I hope someone from Schleich is reading this. I really do. They need to know these things. Not just know, but also understand.
edit: Just looked over the new Triceratops again and I'm just dumbfounded that it was given the OK. Can't get over that!
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Post by bokisaurus on Dec 23, 2011 6:51:33 GMT
;DVery interesting new figures from Scheich for sure! Still the same standard species, nothing new, but at least they are giving their new and repainted figures some interesting colors designs. That butterfly pattern on the pterosaur looks very interesting. So, from what I can tell, the T-rex, raptor, para, and trike are all new sculpts? Is the Brachi also a new sculpt? It looks different, and its pose sort of reminds me of the upcoming Carnegie one. Otherwise, I like the new look. I actually like the sauropods. Everything else are just repaint, right? The trike, not sure. Looks like the head and frill are a bit too small? And that feet? ![:-X](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/lipssealed.png) It reminds me of that trike from that cartoon land before time! ;D The para looks nice, however, I think the old version is better. This one looks like a juvi ;D Well at least no one is surprised by these new ones ;D
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Post by bokisaurus on Dec 23, 2011 6:54:43 GMT
*SIGH* What a horror show. I guess Schleich is strictly aiming for the kiddie market. The only one remotely likeable figure is the repainted Quetzalcoatlus (although the erroneous position of the too-short neck, as well as the too short and misshaped head is still there...) Well in that case there are a lot of little shop of horrors out there ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) altough i like the trex most out of schleich. I do not understand why there is so little safari ltd here. When you ask sellers about it they say schleich is best and safari Ltd is ugly. I don't understand that attitude. Schleich has tried to monopolize the retail market, thats why you don't see any of the other lines. Its the main reason why I really started to dislike them so much ;D
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Post by Meso-Cenozoic on Dec 23, 2011 7:14:20 GMT
Well one thing for sure, their feet ain't gettin' any smaller! ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) Like a lot of the new colors and patterns. Def their best attempt at a T.rex yet. Still, don't know why some companies refuse to correct the "bunny hands"? Except for the obvious new sculpts, don't some of the others look like their sculpts have been tweaked a bit differently? -- Al, Apato, Brachi?? I have the last versions of these three and these are def a little different besides the new paint jobs... This Al looks like he belongs in a nursing home. His head is a different shape and more bumpy. (Just how I remember my one great uncle.) And I swear to god his feet look like they've grown even bigger! (I can just hear Schleich, "No one can say our bipedal dinos fall over with no additional support!" No sh*t Sherlock! With feet that big, a Cat 5 hurricane couldn't topple you over! ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) The Apato looks a bit different, but could be the angle of the pic. He def still has big elephant front feet and legs. Why do they insist at this stage of the game with the knowledge we have, to give him elephant feet with all those extra painted toe nails? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) On a slightly brighter note, the paint job is better and more interesting. The Brachi is different! The other one's head and neck isn't turning and looking off to the side, and yes, not unlike the new Carnegie Brachi. The just recently retired Brachi, has a swan neck and head that faces straight forward. I do like the new blue-grey and brown shades they've given the Quetz and Saich. Haven't seen those shades together much since the Battats. I kinda like the new Trike's head, BUT, the rest of him looks like a Gila Monster on steroids. And his paint coloring is boring as well. Also not thrilled with the paint on the Stego, Raptor, and mostly the knuckle-dragging Spino. All have kind of bleh paint jobs. The Para's paint is not bad. You're basic earth-toned scheme with what looks to be some poo stains here and there. The Giga-not-a-saurus colors are better. The BIG question I have after seeing a lot of their 2012 figs that are made up from some of their bigger figs, how much do ya think they'll cost this round? Some of these bigger figs before were fetching $30 and upwards towards $40. Do you think they can get much more?? Oh, who am I fooling? Look at this crowd I'm asking. Most of you deservingly belonging to the group lovingly known as The Not-giving-a-sh*t-about-Schleichasaurs Club! LOL!! ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cool.png) (Sorry for the exaggerated crankiness! Just back from two Xmas parties, both having lots of wine and spiked eggnog! ![:-X](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/lipssealed.png) BTW, what is a "nog"? I'm going to google it. BRB! ........ OK, first definition. Nog -- a small block or peg of wood. WHAT? I just drank a sh*t load of egg wood? OK, second def. Nog -- a strong ale formerly brewed in Norfolk, England. Ahhh, that's more like it. ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cool.png) )
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Post by fooman666 on Dec 23, 2011 8:27:41 GMT
one thing that's kind of bugging me about the new Schleich figures..whats up with the extremely elongated hallux toes on the Rex and the new "Raptor"?
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Post by sid on Dec 23, 2011 9:28:19 GMT
Eh they are better than the older models I suppose. The quetz coloration is beautiful thats for sure. The para is also really good. Yep... Bear in mind, they're still faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from the quality of the Safari and Papo dinosaurs, they still look like the restorations of those old dinosaur books from the '70s- mid '80s, but they are quite cute, i'd say... Like the Papo Mosasaurus they sort of remind me of my early childhood ;D
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Post by tanystropheus on Dec 23, 2011 11:00:34 GMT
Eh they are better than the older models I suppose. The quetz coloration is beautiful thats for sure. The para is also really good. Yep... Bear in mind, they're still faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from the quality of the Safari and Papo dinosaurs, they still look like the restorations of those old dinosaur books from the '70s- mid '80s, but they are quite cute, i'd say... Like the Papo Mosasaurus they sort of remind me of my early childhood ;D I was thinking the same thing. It appears that Schleich is now the premier company for retro dinosaur models! ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by tanystropheus on Dec 23, 2011 11:01:25 GMT
Shonisaurus deserves an epic repaint!
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Post by sbell on Dec 23, 2011 13:30:19 GMT
Schleich has made a tiny step forward. Tiny. I agree. Compared to their old figures, they have made some major improvements, but they're still not in the same league as Safari and CollectA. They are, however, closing in on Bullyland and (to a lesser degree) Papo. The Rex is much better, but the Trike is very poor. There's something about the new raptor I like, despite its glaring inaccuracies. I probably still won't buy it, but I wouldn't turn it down if it was a gift! ;D The rest are still meh, except for their color schemes, which must be Schleich's biggest improvement. The Quetz is especially nice, even if the wing-pattern looks just like that from the flying-dragon-things in Avatar. If only they had fixed its head and neck. I still have hope that they will produce a half decent unusual dinosaur in 2012 or 2013 though! ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) So, where's Bullyland? They're not going to let Schleich beat them this year are they? Beating Bullyland is like winning the not-the-biggest-loser race at this point. Although Schleich competes pretty hard for that one!
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Post by Griffin on Dec 23, 2011 15:27:26 GMT
![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) Hi, What do you think of the new color ... Parasaurolophus The first is more colorful ... for coupling ... The second is less colorful ... to hide from carnivorous ... To you who know more than me, which is the most realistic? ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) Nobody really knows for sure. You are probably good with either version.
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Post by Horridus on Dec 23, 2011 16:05:26 GMT
Also Brontosaurus excelsus is sufficently different from Apatosaurus ajax to merit them being of a seperate genus, much like Brachiosaurus and Giraffitan. Publish a paper arguing that and I'll listen. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) [EDIT - Dinoguy's right about this. Also, this comes over rather snarky and blunt. I meant to be making fun of myself more than anything. Sorry!] (Actually, people have put forward that argument - Bob Bakker, for one. But the idea has mostly been rejected so far.) By the way, the new Schleich models aren't really any improvement. The T. rex is much better, but that isn't saying much. It would have looked amazing back in the early '90s. Ditto the Velociraptor. Seems like the research consisted of 'copy Papo'. As for the repaints...there have been worse Apatosaurus figures, but it's still very 'retro' (ie. wrong). The tail is disproportionately short, which is true of most sauropod figures (for pracitcal reasons) but is VERY true of this one. Apatosaurus had a very long, tapering tail not unlike Diplodocus, not a camarasaur-like short one. But the Parasaurolophus is still good...
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Post by dinoguy2 on Dec 23, 2011 17:57:17 GMT
Also Brontosaurus excelsus is sufficently different from Apatosaurus ajax to merit them being of a seperate genus, much like Brachiosaurus and Giraffitan. Publish a paper arguing that and I'll listen. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) What goes into which genus is a matter of art, not science. Few people would bother publishing a paper based on something which comes down to personal preference (the Giraffatitan paper was an exception and was criticized for it). I think people would resurrect Brontosaurus but there is probably some concern that B. excelsus may be a growth stage or sexual dimorph of A. ajax, which would need to be ruled out first.
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Post by Dan on Dec 23, 2011 19:05:49 GMT
Schleich catalog arrived today. The following will have articulated jaws:
Tyrannosaurus Spinosaurus Giganotosaurus Allosaurus Velociraptor
Not many other noteworthy additions. Some gladiatorial figures, which are rather similar to the dinosaurs, in that they follow Hollywood conventions rather than actual evidence.
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Post by Horridus on Dec 23, 2011 19:41:06 GMT
Publish a paper arguing that and I'll listen. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) What goes into which genus is a matter of art, not science. Few people would bother publishing a paper based on something which comes down to personal preference (the Giraffatitan paper was an exception and was criticized for it). Oh, I was only messing around (based on my continual references to the Giraffatitan paper). I did note that some people do have that opinion. There's certainly variety between Apatosaurus species too, with some being notably more robust than others. Surely it'd be very difficult to judge either way whether one or the other was a sexual morph if they lived contemporaneously? Unless they find one with an egg or something like that. If Brontosaurus ends up being resurrected, I wouldn't have a problem with that. Just as long as they don't follow Greg Paul's idea and have it as a 'subgenus' of Apatosaurus... ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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