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Post by Horridus on Aug 7, 2011 12:41:28 GMT
That old Carnegie Spino isn't as bad as some illustrations from the early '90s either. It was often given four fingers for some reason.
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Post by takama on Aug 11, 2011 17:56:51 GMT
A figure that i find overrated would be the Anniversary Rex from the Carnegie Collection
not a fan of the Googly eyes, and curved tail.
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Post by Horridus on Aug 11, 2011 19:03:06 GMT
A figure that i find overrated would be the Anniversary Rex from the Carnegie Collection not a fan of the Googly eyes, and curved tail. I agree. Given the awesomeness of this year's Carnotaurus, I would salivate at the prospect of a remade (again) Carnegie rex. Shame it's unlikely to happen any time soon.
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Post by bowheadwhale on Sept 28, 2011 19:58:42 GMT
Overrated: Bullyland Deinotherium. So expensive I never succeed in buying my own! It seems like I have to be a millionnaire to get my own Bully Deinotherium. Not fair. It should be more numerous, so it becomes less expensive and easier for me to get it. Underrated: 1978 AAA dinosaurs. OK, I admit they are totally inaccurate and look like any chinasaurus you can find on the market. But hey! They still are AAA, discontinued since a very early date and are very good samples for whoever is interested in dinosaur toy history.
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Post by Seijun on Sept 29, 2011 3:24:11 GMT
It is not more numerous because it is retired. It is expensive because it is retired, very rare, and the only decent deinotherium toy out there (that I know of). ;D Retired prehistoric mammals always shoot up in price, especially when the species is unique, and in part because many had relatively short production runs, compared to dinosaurs. Look at carnegie for example. Their big brachi has been in production since 1988, but they wooly rhino lasted.. how long before it was retired? 2 years? That was just a wild guess, but I know it was not very long. The moral of the story is, if any company makes a decent prehistoric mammal toy, buy it. Then buy extras. Unfortunately for you and me, all the bully mammals were retired and gone before we started collecting
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Post by Griffin on Sept 29, 2011 23:21:29 GMT
A figure that i find overrated would be the Anniversary Rex from the Carnegie Collection not a fan of the Googly eyes, and curved tail. It only has googly eyes if you have a newer cruddier release. I happen to think its one of the better rex figures available.
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Post by rsknol on Sept 30, 2011 16:45:47 GMT
Hi,
While I agree while toob figures are underrated the Bullyand Plateiosaurus, Allosaurus and Tyrannosaurus are underrated. They have been around awhile they among the first free standing bipedal theropods and the best quad prosauropod. for collectables. I also think the Schleich Desmatosuchus and junior Allosaurus, Salas Centrasaurus and Play Vision Coelophysis are underrated. From CollectA the tenotosaurus and camptosaurus. All the new prehistoric trees have been underated from both Safari and CollectA. The HLBS compy has never been really appreciated.
I think Cherilea and Miller dinosaurs (not the mammals) are overrated. I would not pay the prices being asked. I find most Papo dinosaurs overrated although I bought them all.
I do think Invicta was apreciated in its day but that has passed.
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Post by rsknol on Sept 30, 2011 16:53:44 GMT
All the spinosaurus reconstructions are speculative. The early ones just put a sail on the back of a generic theropod. So the heads are wrong. The type bones were not complete and later they were destroyed in WW2. Last I heard was fragments have been found since but nothing like a complete skeleton so the best reconstructions use baryonx or suchiomimus. That said I like the new reconstructions better even the JP ones but I think Carnegie is the best guess.
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Post by Seijun on Sept 30, 2011 17:03:56 GMT
The day for invictas is never past! ;D
I think if you could just lift the tail of the diplo off the ground, it would be one of the better diplo toys available. Same for the apatosaurus.
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Post by Horridus on Sept 30, 2011 18:05:40 GMT
I think if you could just lift the tail of the diplo off the ground, it would be one of the better diplo toys available. Same for the apatosaurus. Nah, the neck of the Invicta Apatosaurus is very wrong...
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Post by bowheadwhale on Sept 30, 2011 19:37:00 GMT
It is not more numerous because it is retired. It is expensive because it is retired, very rare, and the only decent deinotherium toy out there (that I know of). ;D Retired prehistoric mammals always shoot up in price, especially when the species is unique, and in part because many had relatively short production runs, compared to dinosaurs. Look at carnegie for example. Their big brachi has been in production since 1988, but they wooly rhino lasted.. how long before it was retired? 2 years? That was just a wild guess, but I know it was not very long. The moral of the story is, if any company makes a decent prehistoric mammal toy, buy it. Then buy extras. Unfortunately for you and me, all the bully mammals were retired and gone before we started collecting That is exactly what I'm saying! Bullyland should have made more Deinotheriums! If it was more numerous, it would also be less expensive and I would be able to get my own. Oh! By the way, Bullyland is NOT the only company who made a Deinotherium: Starlux also made a good-looking one in the 1970's.
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Post by sbell on Sept 30, 2011 22:33:01 GMT
It is not more numerous because it is retired. It is expensive because it is retired, very rare, and the only decent deinotherium toy out there (that I know of). ;D Retired prehistoric mammals always shoot up in price, especially when the species is unique, and in part because many had relatively short production runs, compared to dinosaurs. Look at carnegie for example. Their big brachi has been in production since 1988, but they wooly rhino lasted.. how long before it was retired? 2 years? That was just a wild guess, but I know it was not very long. The moral of the story is, if any company makes a decent prehistoric mammal toy, buy it. Then buy extras. Unfortunately for you and me, all the bully mammals were retired and gone before we started collecting That is exactly what I'm saying! Bullyland should have made more Deinotheriums! If it was more numerous, it would also be less expensive and I would be able to get my own. Oh! By the way, Bullyland is NOT the only company who made a Deinotherium: Starlux also made a good-looking one in the 1970's. To be fair, the Bully Deinothere was available at least from about 1998, probably earlier, and was around until about 2005. In other words, it was around for 7 years, and I'm sure they produced many thousands of them (typical runs of figures are generally between 5000 and much higher). So in fact there are lots out there, and always were, but it's really about timing. Who wouldn't want a full collection of Miller or Starlux or SRG or Otto La Brea figures? But they are time-and-place dependent (just like, say, Dinotales or Tedco Panorama figures now). So its unfair to say the Deinotherium is over-rated, because it really is an excellent, accurate figure of that animal. If anything, it was under-rated when it was available, because the numbers weren't there to keep it in production (see also the entire rest of the Bully mammal line, Battat figures). Also, there is another Deinotherium currently available. Don't have it (yet) but I have some of the other figures and they are all excellent: dinotoyforum.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=toys&action=display&thread=3981In fact, these and Shapeways are where I currently do most of my budget planning.
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Post by Seijun on Sept 30, 2011 22:58:02 GMT
I think if you could just lift the tail of the diplo off the ground, it would be one of the better diplo toys available. Same for the apatosaurus. Nah, the neck of the Invicta Apatosaurus is very wrong... Yes, it is wrong, but it's not really any more wrong than any other apato toy around. I was just saying, compared to other apato and diplo toys that have been made, the invictas are some of the best.
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Post by diane21 on Oct 1, 2011 12:35:29 GMT
wow looking awesome figures. Like a real dinosaur .
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Post by sumo on Oct 3, 2011 16:39:03 GMT
Perhaps more unknown than actually underrated, but... The Dinosaur King mini iguanodonts and hadrosaurs are really nice. A bit basic, sure, but essentially correct - a lot more so than most of their theropods.
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Post by Seijun on Oct 3, 2011 19:50:50 GMT
Should we have a thread for relatively unknown, but surprisingly nice dino figures? A lot of figures listed here may be more unknown than underrated. The safari protoceratops for example.
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Post by Himmapaan on Oct 4, 2011 0:13:16 GMT
Should we have a thread for relatively unknown, but surprisingly nice dino figures? A lot of figures listed here may be more unknown than underrated. The safari protoceratops for example. I would like that.
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Post by bowheadwhale on Oct 6, 2011 19:46:28 GMT
That is exactly what I'm saying! Bullyland should have made more Deinotheriums! If it was more numerous, it would also be less expensive and I would be able to get my own. Oh! By the way, Bullyland is NOT the only company who made a Deinotherium: Starlux also made a good-looking one in the 1970's. To be fair, the Bully Deinothere was available at least from about 1998, probably earlier, and was around until about 2005. In other words, it was around for 7 years, and I'm sure they produced many thousands of them (typical runs of figures are generally between 5000 and much higher). So in fact there are lots out there, and always were, but it's really about timing. Who wouldn't want a full collection of Miller or Starlux or SRG or Otto La Brea figures? But they are time-and-place dependent (just like, say, Dinotales or Tedco Panorama figures now). So its unfair to say the Deinotherium is over-rated, because it really is an excellent, accurate figure of that animal. If anything, it was under-rated when it was available, because the numbers weren't there to keep it in production (see also the entire rest of the Bully mammal line, Battat figures). Also, there is another Deinotherium currently available. Don't have it (yet) but I have some of the other figures and they are all excellent: dinotoyforum.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=toys&action=display&thread=3981In fact, these and Shapeways are where I currently do most of my budget planning. If I want a Bully Deinotherium, it's exactly because it's an excellent figure and, to add more, a very original animal to represent as a toy. What I'm saying is it's so expensive, many people who would want one like me just cannot afford it; the last one I've seen on Ebay was sold on auction for 138$... Who can afford that beside a millionnaire? OK, but if we talk about REALLY overrated figures, like those who DO NOT deserve to be expensive at all, are the oh-so-common Tyrannosauruses Rex which invade the market. I know I won't make friends saying this, but I'm totally THROUGH with T-Rexes. Come on! They're everywhere! Why would a retired 1965 Tyrannosaurus be worth 100$, I'm asking you? It's still only a T-Rex; in other words, an animal every company overproduces year after year. No matter if it's called Schleich, Papo, Bullyland, Safari ltd, Procon or Tungu-Tungu, I just don't understand how come this invading species is still sold. Maybe because the population is soooo alienated already nobody knows there were more than five species of dinos in prehistory. When a company releases a T-Rex, I feel like telling the company:"sell it at one dollar the piece, it's too common to sell it even 10$". Other dinos deserve to be produced as toys, not just the overproduced and overrated T-Rex.
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Post by Libraraptor on Oct 6, 2011 19:54:15 GMT
To be fair, the Bully Deinothere was available at least from about 1998, probably earlier, and was around until about 2005. In other words, it was around for 7 years, and I'm sure they produced many thousands of them (typical runs of figures are generally between 5000 and much higher). So in fact there are lots out there, and always were, but it's really about timing. Who wouldn't want a full collection of Miller or Starlux or SRG or Otto La Brea figures? But they are time-and-place dependent (just like, say, Dinotales or Tedco Panorama figures now). So its unfair to say the Deinotherium is over-rated, because it really is an excellent, accurate figure of that animal. If anything, it was under-rated when it was available, because the numbers weren't there to keep it in production (see also the entire rest of the Bully mammal line, Battat figures). Also, there is another Deinotherium currently available. Don't have it (yet) but I have some of the other figures and they are all excellent: dinotoyforum.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=toys&action=display&thread=3981In fact, these and Shapeways are where I currently do most of my budget planning. If I want a Bully Deinotherium, it's exactly because it's an excellent figure and, to add more, a very original animal to represent as a toy. What I'm saying is it's so expensive, many people who would want one like me just cannot afford it; the last one I've seen on Ebay was sold on auction for 138$... Who can afford that beside a millionnaire? OK, but if we talk about REALLY overrated figures, like those who DO NOT deserve to be expensive at all, are the oh-so-common Tyrannosauruses Rex which invade the market. I know I won't make friends saying this, but I'm totally THROUGH with T-Rexes. Come on! They're everywhere! Why would a retired 1965 Tyrannosaurus be worth 100$, I'm asking you? It's still only a T-Rex; in other words, an animal every company overproduces year after year. No matter if it's called Schleich, Papo, Bullyland, Safari ltd, Procon or Tungu-Tungu, I just don't understand how come this invading species is still sold. Maybe because the population is soooo alienated already nobody knows there were more than five species of dinos in prehistory. When a company releases a T-Rex, I feel like telling the company:"sell it at one dollar the piece, it's too common to sell it even 10$". Other dinos deserve to be produced as toys, not just the overproduced and overrated T-Rex. Yes, maybe T.rex is too abundant. But I see a trend towards more exotic species choice, so let us be optimistic. And the more I see those Bullyland Deinotherium discussions, the happier I am to have one Try misprints more often, searching on ebay for " Deintherium" or " Deinoterium" or "Hauerelefant"That is how I got mine for 30€
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Post by gwangi on Oct 6, 2011 20:31:46 GMT
Tyrannosaurus is popular as a toy because it is popular as a species...supply and demand, kids want tyrannosaurus.Tyrannosaurus is one of the most well know and most studied dinosaurs. Tyrannosaurus is also the poster child for dinosaurs, paleontology, pre-history...you name it, the animal is a cultural icon. Why wouldn't toy companies make it?
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