Blade-of-the-Moon's Drawings and other bits

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Thanks , I put a lot of work into the sketches and such first before even cutting out the cardboard diagram. It's a pain to scale adults into juveniles I tell ya' ! lol

I would have liked to have taken a better picture of it but I couldn't get high enough above to get the whole thing..so the pics are a little skewered by the perspective.

I started working on the basic frame today when I get further along I'll post more pics.

Does anyone know I can get a good image of the back of Spinosaurus ? I need to see how wide the shoulders and hips are..judging by my models not very wide at all but I'd like to be sure.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I found this one by Felipe Elias :



Is it correct in regards to width ?

[DinoLord]

It looks pretty good, but I think the tail would have been thicker in real life.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Maybe..Spino's seem to be pretty lightly built..I couldn't believe just how narrow those hips are...but the fossil is from a sub-adult or so I'm given to understand...so a really older specimen might be thicker and heavier I suppose.

[Himmapaan]

Theropods tend to have far narrower hips than we may imagine too.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

True. Let's say a quite a bit more narrower than most large theropods like T-Rex...hence my surprise.

I know tails are oft-depicted too thin..but there doesn't seem to be much area to go out from the legs..unless the legs are thicker and more muscled that the diagram above shows.

[sbell]

Jul 13, 2011 19:08:41 GMT Blade-of-the-Moon said:

I found this one by Felipe Elias :



Is it correct in regards to width ?

Wow. That Spinosaurus desperately needs to eat--unless having an outline that tight to the skeleton is normal for animals.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

So it should be thicker ? I held the CollectA Irritator up to it and it match almost perfectly.

Do you have an idea where I can find a better reference ?

[DinoLord]

Perhaps Scott Hartman might have something? I think checking for accuracy with a Collecta figure is a rather poor idea...

[sbell]

Jul 13, 2011 19:49:06 GMT Blade-of-the-Moon said:

So it should be thicker ? I held the CollectA Irritator up to it and it match almost perfectly.

Do you have an idea where I can find a better reference ?

I don't know about a better reference, but the science is improving. For example, there is a new hypothesis out that, like other diapsids, the muscle behind the hips at the base of the tail should actually be quite fat and muscular (powers the legs, after all). As well, it is unusual for any healthy animal to have an outline that follows their skeleton exactly. Most have muscles, fat deposits, etc that give a different shape to the body, in particular past the ribs to the hips--most likely, that part would not 'cave in' but follow in a straighter line to the hip. That's where the abdominal muscles and most of the digestive tract are, of course, and they need some room to fit in there.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Dinolord, I did use Scott Hartman skeletals for the sideview..but I can't find " above " or " below " images for a Spinosaur. Except the one above by Felipe. I use what I can get.. the CollectA Irritator is pretty accurate overall and he was close at hand..

I can thicken muscles later as I develop the frame...but is the skeletal correct ? I'm actually working right now hence my quick replies.

[DinoLord]

It looks to be pretty good. The head is a bit small though.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I think I've figured the hips to this guy are about 15 1/2 " and the shoulders 11 1/2 " that will all bulk up some though.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Here is the VERY basic frame showing hips, shoulders, legs , arms in tail..highlighted in red.



I also started redoing my big Raptor in May with a vinyl coating and he's 99% done now just painting to do :









I'm def using the same process on my new juvenile Spinosaur..it makes them a LOT more weather resistant.

[DinoLord]

That raptor looks pretty sweet. Can't wait to see it painted!

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

VERY soon I promise ! I 'm bits here there..but it should look a lot like the JP3 versions.

Here's a pic of my redone flying Pteranodon I forgot to post :

[DinoLord]

Very nice! But it looks a bit wrinkly. Is that the coating? Or is it just an old Pteranodon? ;D

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

It's the vinyl, I actually kinda like it makes it look a bit dated I know but not too bad. This is the original version before coating :



Now that was wrinkly.. ;D

[DinoLord]

Maybe it has survived since the Cretaceous instead of fossilizing? ;D

[mmfrankford]

Hey I remember that the most recent Prehistoric Times or the previous had a "How To Draw" article on the thickness of theropod tails. It might help to relook that over.