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Post by arioch on Sept 6, 2011 19:30:01 GMT
Personally I´m not feeling the slapstick approach, but I have to admit I enjoyed the second episode (most of the first one made me feel embarassed). Although the way the animals moved wasn´t completely believable here neither, when they stayed relatively quiet it looked very nice. Also you end up being quite fond of the allo protagonist, so the narration wasn´t bad at all, despite the hardcore american style (silly jokes, uncalled for violence, sensationalism and the stupid voice who advertise all the movie trailers) . I was expecting lot of innacuracies so didn´t even take that into account.
Looking forward for the rest, and I hope the show suceeds just to have the chance to see in the future the other episodes featuring Concavenator and Iguanodon.
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Post by camara on Sept 6, 2011 19:57:26 GMT
I have just watched The Watering Hole and I have to say that I really enjoyed it! I loved the story and the Allosaurus protagonist. The model is just amazing!! What a HORRIBLE marketing campaign focusing on the stupid jokes,really. Oh,and Angie...what were you thinking when doing the saurosuchus skin pattern?  Also watched the first episode.......something to forget.........animated by amateur children maybe?? See those dinosaurs walking was embarrasing..... |
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Post by Sparkleopteryx on Sept 6, 2011 21:56:36 GMT
First, thanks guys! ;D Glad you like some, most or all. And thank you for some nice compliments here, thank you! Firstly, Ricardo, thank you for that! I wasn't sure on the "peacock tail" on the female Eoraptor so that was my mistake. Credit were it is due. Ian deserves the credit for the unique take on that one. The crew got a nice compliment and I was pretty proud that someone of this nature would praise it, especially the colors!!!  If you don't know who he is...go to your search engines Oh, and I GOT PERMISSION to post this so that has now been noted, lol Anyway, it made me happy so may as well share it: *HARLAN ELLISON - Monday, September 5 2011 17:3:22 MY TOPMOST MUST-SEE RECOMMENDATION You will only LOVE this! Even though, for some arcane, self-beheading -- and as usual, networkwise, imbecile -- reason, The Discovery Channel has done virtually no promotion for an absolutely WONDERFUL series called D I N O S A U R R E V O L U T I O N which is filled with not only great stories and state-of-the-art presentation, but a virtual Lost Library of Alexandria of the very latest, most eye-opening dinosaur and Post-Permean-Extinction Cataclysm findings. Stuff you couldn't even IMAGINE! (Remember back, if you can, when I put together that UCLA seminar "Ten Tuesdays Down A Rabbit Hole?" And for a final paper, I asked those who'd taken the course for credit--out of the 1500 who signed up for the full ten weeks pleasure--to do a final paper of 200 words expressing a thought they'd never before had? And all but two of the 100 or so failed. Remember? Well, one of the suggestions of a "thought previously unthunk" was one of my own, long-held: Why do we always see dinosaurs replicated drably, always in gray or muted monochromatic hues. Why couldn't they have had, say, calico hides...or multi-hued appendages? (And, of course, ten or so idiots just gave me back the same question, thus earning them an F for Failure.) If you can't remember those Ten Tuesdays seminars with Fritz Leiber and Frank Herbert and Ted Sturgeon and dozens of others, trust me, it was sensational. But, I digress... The point of the digression being, well, this show, DINOSAUR REVOLUTION, aired on The Discovery Channel on Sundays, ANSWERS, s'HELP ME, GAWD!!!!! that question that has plagued me since I was a kid and went for the first time to a Museum of Natural History!!!!! Blown away, was I? Oh boy, you betcha! If you ever had a second of rapture playing with little plastic triceratops and stegosaurus models, this series, DINOSAUR REVOLUTION will knock your armor-plating off. It is a swell series. I've watched two episodes already, and they knocked my antennae askew. PLEASE PLEASE do you and your kids and your friends a favor, and tune in DINOSAUR REVOLUTION. Susan and I commend it to your attention NOW, in the highest possible hysteria. Sundays. The Discovery Channel. Two episodes in the box already. More I cannot say to try to move you off yer asses. But you'll thank me if you do. Tell others if you agree how great this is, tell'm!*  I can't take credit for the Saurosuchus, he is not mine. I can list some of mine I'm sure. In that episode I painted Eos (had help on the baby as we were trying to move as fast as possible so can't take the full credit from my friend) and Probey's. Waterhole I painted the Dinheiros and Draconyx. I modeled the Miragaia's and the Ramph's head. I'm sure there is more I just can't think of it all. Hey, just wanna say thank you and OF COURSE you are all still free to love or hate it and talk freely. I've tried to find out for you on the international stuff, but haven't been able to yet. I'm very new at this stuff, so forgive my ignorance...which shows, lol! Anyway, best to you guys! Angie |
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Post by rfdelgado on Sept 7, 2011 2:49:34 GMT
The Saurosuchus color scheme was mine, as was the Pokemon skullface rex concept, which was massaged at the model and texture level by Angie under the direction of Krentz.
I know everyone means well, yet I think Angie has earned enough style points with her fantastic attitude and good will on this forum and others to perhaps be given a softer tone with some of the crits. It's super cool if my stuff is not liked, because I can handle it, but she's younger and some of this stuff can be hard to digest for an aspiring artist, even if the intentions are good. She's a good kid on her first gig. Say what you want, but kid gloves, please.
Thanks,
Ricardo Delgado
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Sept 7, 2011 4:08:08 GMT
I loved all the coloration and models..the only thing I had to complain abou twas the animation in Episode 1 . Can't stress just how much better it would have been if it was animated like the 2nd ep.
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Post by darwinian on Sept 7, 2011 5:27:14 GMT
5 eps total?
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Post by weaver on Sept 7, 2011 5:58:01 GMT
I agree with Zopteryx: We need DR toys in the future. Some with Angies' colors and oh man. Will you? Pretty please with a... an Ammonite on top? |
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Post by dinonikes on Sept 7, 2011 6:01:49 GMT
The Saurosuchus color scheme was mine, as was the Pokemon skullface rex concept, which was massaged at the model and texture level by Angie under the direction of Krentz. I know everyone means well, yet I think Angie has earned enough style points with her fantastic attitude and good will on this forum and others to perhaps be given a softer tone with some of the crits. It's super cool if my stuff is not liked, because I can handle it, but she's younger and some of this stuff can be hard to digest for an aspiring artist, even if the intentions are good. She's a good kid on her first gig. Say what you want, but kid gloves, please. Thanks, Ricardo Delgado Sorry in advancefor the long post- I guess I dont understand the quoted post with all due respect. I read back through the comments about the show and there really isn't anything criticizing angie's work- maybe one asking what she was thinking about regarding a critter, but that could be taken either way-certainly not harsh as far as critiquing goes- I guess it just worries me to have anyone ask for an artist to be treated with kid gloves as far as critiques go- especially one who is looking to work professionally as an artist. As a professional artist for the past 29 years, (started out when I was 19, and had many clients when I was at that age give me very harsh critiques) I know that clients' criticisms can be the harshest to hear, and as they are paying you for the work, they will feel, justifiably, that they have the right to give it to you with both barrels if they want to, and frequently do- it does no service to any aspiring artist to try to shield them from criticisms whether harsh or not, it is better to learn how to deal with them as early as possible- and angie has repeatedly stated in this thread that she doesnt want to censor or stifle free critiques of the show- I think 99.9% of the posts have been positive towards her work, in fact the only criticism I see of the show is of the storytelling style or the animating which angie had no blame for- I have been on this forum for just about three years now, and if anything, I feel that there is a tendency to just post- 'wow looks great' 'awesome' in response to artists' work posted here- nice to hear, but personally, I find the ones that criticize my works more helpful to me- That being said, I liked the modeling and coloration of the animals (although one nit picky thing-like angie has stated previously there seems to be a sort of heavy favoring of white on the faces of the dinos) I can see angies style in many of the pieces, and I think I could spot ones she was responsible for, which to me is the highest compliment you can pay an artist- to recognize that they have a style that you can pick out- |
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Post by Sparkleopteryx on Sept 7, 2011 8:51:23 GMT
Thanks guys, you are all very sweet Ricardo, thank you for your post ;D Guys, its totally OK. You guys are FINE. |
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Post by Sparkleopteryx on Sept 7, 2011 9:15:06 GMT
I agree with Zopteryx: We need DR toys in the future. Some with Angies' colors and oh man. Will you? Pretty please with a... an Ammonite on top? This would be awesome and I would love for it to happen (I actually would be begging for a plush Miragaia I want one so bad, lol!!!) I feel so bad for anyone who would be assigned the task of painting my insane color patterns on toys, lol! green dinosaurs are oh so much easier. HA! Speaking of ammonites, you see those useless guys in Rev? I modeled those things, lol! OUTTA MY WAY STUPID AMMONITE THINGS!!! LOL! I hope something happens in regard to more merchandise. I wouldn't be allowed to do my own, or I would paint one for you guys But they don't belong to me to do that for for ya  Best to you |
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Post by eriorguez on Sept 7, 2011 9:42:22 GMT
Oh, I'd love it if they released a series of figurines based on the series.
Also, birds are colorful and color-sensible. Reptiles are colorful and color sensible. The dull ones are mammals, which cannot see color well because of some 150 million years putting the color vision resources into night vision.
COLORFUL DINOSAURS SHOULD BE THE NORM. Congratulations about doing that, so people can see colorful dinos as something more that bad "monster figurines".
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Post by dinodinkies on Sept 7, 2011 11:13:22 GMT
I contacted neca about it. But no reply yet. Hope they will think about it.
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Post by crazycrowman on Sept 7, 2011 13:36:27 GMT
I've only seen "The Watering Hole" so far, and LOVED it. A++ work, the animals were fantastic, and the colors superb! The humor end of it, that some are fussing about (loved the roadrunner & coyote bit) managed to pull in and keep my non dino friend watching.
The creators deserve a huge hurray for making these dinosaurs individuals.
I can't wait to see more! (I too would love a toy line, especially with those breathtaking colors/patterns!)
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Sept 7, 2011 16:00:51 GMT
I contacted neca about it. But no reply yet. Hope they will think about it. Best bet would be to buy an existin gDino figure and have on of the amazing custom artists here re-paint it for you..I bet some could even custom sculpt Al with that broken jaw. |
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Post by mmfrankford on Sept 7, 2011 16:55:16 GMT
Angie and company, I loved the coloring on the dinosaurs. Most reptiles and birds have very complex patterns and colors. Just go to a reptile show to see the wild stuff nature has created. So why not dinosaurs who were related closely to these groups?
I'm off my soapbox... ;D
I would love figures of these characters. My shunosaurus is delayed in shipping, however when I do get it I am making the Shroomosaurus! And BTW- Anyone know of eoraptor sculptures?
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Post by dinonikes on Sept 7, 2011 17:50:03 GMT
Angie and company, I loved the coloring on the dinosaurs. Most reptiles and birds have very complex patterns and colors. Just go to a reptile show to see the wild stuff nature has created. So why not dinosaurs who were related closely to these groups? I dont think that bright colors or patterns on dinosaurs is anything new really-just look through really old back issues of PT-I think that most paleo artists have been using bright colors and patterns on dinos for many years now- I remember catching hell back in th 80's from museum directors for using reptile patterns and bright colors on models, had to repaint many of them to make these guys happy with the browns and grays that seemed the norm back then-but I would say that since the 90's it has been the standard to do so for most paleo artists. I even had a museum in '96 ask me to paint a T.Rex in black and orange tiger stripes, so even by then colors and patterns were becoming more normal to see- I would say that one should do what they want artistically, but to be realistic, one should think of the environment that a dinosaur lived in, if that is known-most (not all) animals are colored for camoflage- patterns are used to break up the animal to confuse predators, and colors used to blend in- |
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Sept 7, 2011 18:48:41 GMT
Angie and company, I loved the coloring on the dinosaurs. Most reptiles and birds have very complex patterns and colors. Just go to a reptile show to see the wild stuff nature has created. So why not dinosaurs who were related closely to these groups? I'm off my soapbox... ;D I would love figures of these characters. My shunosaurus is delayed in shipping, however when I do get it I am making the Shroomosaurus! And BTW- Anyone know of eoraptor sculptures? I know of some 1/1 Eoraptors I believe. |
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Post by paleoferroequine on Sept 7, 2011 19:22:48 GMT
I'll have to say I enjoyed this greatly even with some odd behavior.  My wife thought some of the dinosaurs acted a bit like puppies. So in my best Cesar Millan impression I said "Tchsh" ;D Can't wait till Sunday for the rest. Wow, I saw that the Protoceratops species isn't the usual andrewsi but is hellinikorhinus. I just got through modifying Battle Brak's Shapeway version to this species for something different. What a co-inkydink! ;D Congrats to Angie and David and Richard for giving us this fantastic experience(even with some warts) |
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Post by crazycrowman on Sept 8, 2011 10:09:41 GMT
I managed to catch the first episode, and I do agree with some of the other posters that the animals in that episode move...strange. Almost like they are out of sync or something. Loved the colors and species choices though. Didn't see the same problem in "The Watering Hole". My eye twitched when the Mosasaurs were making dolphin noises at each other, but I'll just have to give that a pass. Whomever decided to dress up Gigantoraptor like a Satyr Tragopan though ? = Rocks! |
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Post by crazycrowman on Sept 8, 2011 10:59:20 GMT
I also got it pointed out that feathered dinosaur could not be blue. I had NO idea about that! Saying they COULD NOT be blue might be a bit of a stretch, though more conservative paleoartists are probably best erring on other "pigment based" colors - dinogoss.blogspot.com/2010/10/guide-to-feather-colors.html - Quoted - "What it means for dinobirds: Blue, green, jet black and bright white can't be present in dinobirds that lack structural color in their feathers. I've said before that structural colors are impossible in the monofilament integument of primitive coelurosaurs. However, I'm not so sure that's true. The main difference between hair and feathers isn't the structure of the filaments, it's the structure of the underlying molecules. Hair is alpha-keratin, a helix-shaped molecule like DNA. beta-keratin, which makes up feathers, has a layered and pleated underlying molecular structure more conducive to structural scattering. So a blue-fuzzed Struthiomimus may be possible. However, in the iridescent fossil feathers studied by Vinther et al. (2008), the structural color was restricted to the barbules, which are not present in many primitive feathered dinosaurs." |
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My wife thought some of the dinosaurs acted a bit like puppies. So in my best Cesar Millan impression I said "Tchsh" ;D Can't wait till Sunday for the rest. Wow, I saw that the Protoceratops species isn't the usual andrewsi but is hellinikorhinus. I just got through modifying Battle Brak's Shapeway version to this species for something different. What a co-inkydink! ;D Congrats to Angie and David and Richard for giving us this fantastic experience(even with some warts)
