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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Jun 30, 2011 5:59:21 GMT
Or just make one up. This is a hypothetical future with time travel and whatnot..it could be an alternate reality even with different types of Dinosaurs...I'm really comparing it to Primeval myself a lot now. and it makes sense..Primeval has been very popular..so a U.S. version only makes sense.
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Jul 24, 2011 2:39:45 GMT
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Post by Himmapaan on Jul 24, 2011 16:36:29 GMT
The effects and animation look great and all. But the dinosaur treatment isn't winning me over yet, I'm afraid.
I'll leave the Carnotaurus arm inaccuracy to someone else to comment upon. ;D
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Jul 24, 2011 19:01:21 GMT
I was thinking on that..they could just fired rocket launchers and killed him..but their weapons looked non-lethal...or did you mean story-wise ?
Yeah the arms are too long..but I think they have the right number of fingers..but those fingers look to have claws..other than that it looks pretty darn good for a non-documentary tv series.
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Post by Himmapaan on Jul 24, 2011 19:13:23 GMT
I was thinking on that..they could just fired rocket launchers and killed him..but their weapons looked non-lethal...or did you mean story-wise ? Yes, sorry, I do mean story-wise. I should have said 'the human-dinosaur treatment' (on the part of the writers). It still looks like lots of action-wiseguys being all heroic and dino-huntin'... And the Carno just looks like a super-fast, super deadly killer monster. But these are the tropes of movie-land, so I'd be silly to complain about them.  |
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Jul 24, 2011 19:40:14 GMT
Conflict is to be found everywhere..these are futuristic humans in the Mesozoic..I see lot's of opportunities for conflict...probably so did the writers and creators..lol
The reasoning is what will get me..did the Carnotaurus learn people were easy prey at some point so now it hunts them like lions and tigers ? Or did they setup base camp in it's territory so now it feels threatened and has to lash out at them ? If they don't bother to explain..then I'll be a bit upset.
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Post by Meso-Cenozoic on Jul 24, 2011 22:41:20 GMT
There have been commercials everywhere in the NYC area lately. The CGI looks pretty realistic (accuracy aside), especially for a weekly non-doc series.
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Post by rfdelgado on Jul 25, 2011 20:27:30 GMT
I saw the first episode at Comic Con, and there's two dinosaur sequences, one that involves some pretty big Carnotauruses, but less than 20 dino shots for the entire hour.
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Jul 25, 2011 20:33:03 GMT
I guess it's mostly story setup for the first episode...but I think the premiere will be 2 hours I read somewhere ?
Did you have fun at SDCC Ricardo ?
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Post by rfdelgado on Jul 25, 2011 23:04:40 GMT
Yes, bought too much and am hoping the credit card statement is glossed over when it comes next month, lol.
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Jul 26, 2011 3:32:36 GMT
lol luck with that.. ;D
Did you see any good Dino stuff besides Reign / Revolution and Terra Nova of course... ? I haven't really got to talk with anyone who went yet.
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Post by itstwentybelow on Jul 27, 2011 22:08:08 GMT
Just to be nitpicky...
I see two things wrong with this show and the concept:
1.) The atmosphere of the Jurassic was structured such that a human-sized mammal would not have been able to inhale enough oxygen to function with each breath, so these people would basically be transporting themselves back to a time where they couldn't breathe.
2.) If humans really did do this and established a new civilization 85 million years in the past, scientists in the present day (or future present day) would have been finding the incredibly confusing and paradoxical evidence of it in the rocks for hundreds of years now ;D
But hey, it could still be an entertaining show. Looks interesting anyhow. I just find it very fascinating that the complete lack of any modern (or futuristic) human activity in any rock formations is evidence in and of itself that travel backward in time will likely always remain impossible.
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Post by stoneage on Jul 27, 2011 23:49:53 GMT
Just to be nitpicky... I see two things wrong with this show and the concept: 1.) The atmosphere of the Jurassic was structured such that a human-sized mammal would not have been able to inhale enough oxygen to function with each breath, so these people would basically be transporting themselves back to a time where they couldn't breathe. 2.) If humans really did do this and established a new civilization 85 million years in the past, scientists in the present day (or future present day) would have been finding the incredibly confusing and paradoxical evidence of it in the rocks for hundreds of years now ;D But hey, it could still be an entertaining show. Looks interesting anyhow. I just find it very fascinating that the complete lack of any modern (or futuristic) human activity in any rock formations is evidence in and of itself that travel backward in time will likely always remain impossible. Well you usually don't find fossils from ficticious shows. |
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Post by sbell on Jul 28, 2011 2:21:22 GMT
Just to be nitpicky... I see two things wrong with this show and the concept: 1.) The atmosphere of the Jurassic was structured such that a human-sized mammal would not have been able to inhale enough oxygen to function with each breath, so these people would basically be transporting themselves back to a time where they couldn't breathe. 2.) If humans really did do this and established a new civilization 85 million years in the past, scientists in the present day (or future present day) would have been finding the incredibly confusing and paradoxical evidence of it in the rocks for hundreds of years now ;D But hey, it could still be an entertaining show. Looks interesting anyhow. I just find it very fascinating that the complete lack of any modern (or futuristic) human activity in any rock formations is evidence in and of itself that travel backward in time will likely always remain impossible. Well you usually don't find fossils from ficticious shows. I'm also interested in how a higher oxygen and CO2 content would make it impossible to absorb oxygen? Given the levels I have read, it would make a newcomer woozy, but with acclimatization, it would likely boost a person't abilities. |
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Post by itstwentybelow on Jul 28, 2011 2:56:58 GMT
Stoneage, I'm not only referring to the show but also in real life. If one day people did happen to come across a means of time travel into the past, then in an even further future there would inevitably be more people with access to this technology than just scientists. Humans can be pretty darn messy if the archaeological record is of any indication, even if they made a conscious effort to clean up after themselves, and I think we'd definitely have found something by now indicating human presence in the very distant past that is unexplained.
And sbell, from what I've read, in particular an interesting little book called "Out of Thin Air", paleoclimatology evidence suggests that the atmosphere during the time this show takes place likely had an oxygen content as low as 15%, and carbon dioxide content of greater than 5%. That doesn't sound too good for an inefficient respiratory system like what mammals have, which is likely partially why most mammals during the Jurassic were quite small. Dinosaurs and birds could thrive however due to their much more efficient system of air sacs, and this helps explain why some species of birds can fly at the altitude of Mt. Everest, since they evolved in a low-oxygen environment.
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Post by deanm on Jul 28, 2011 3:21:03 GMT
Even if time travelling humans were rather messy and left alot of material behind what are the chances that we would find it? Just asking the question as a thought exercise it would seem to be a pretty low chance for us to find stuff if humans were visiting the dinos 100 MYA or so ago. After watching "Life After People" (not including some of the pseudo-science junk from that show and just keeping the base scnetifically acceptable ideas) it makes for a pretty interesting idea that chances of us finding anything human made from even 5-10 MYA would seem remote (unless they were using nuclear power...). My 0.02 cents. (yes, I do mean 0.02 cents - as 2 cents seems like a lot for me...  ) |
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Post by DinoLord on Jul 28, 2011 3:33:47 GMT
Humans can be pretty darn messy if the archaeological record is of any indication, even if they made a conscious effort to clean up after themselves, and I think we'd definitely have found something by now indicating human presence in the very distant past that is unexplained. Maybe all those human footprints along dinosaur ones are real? ;D I've had that Out of Thin Air book for quite a while now, but haven't had the chance to actually read it yet. As for the T.V. show, I do hope that the dinosaurs are not made into ridiculous stereotypical movie monsters. Maybe this could be the next Jurassic Park in terms of how it changes the public's view of dinosaurs. I can dream, right? |
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Post by itstwentybelow on Jul 28, 2011 4:07:38 GMT
deanm, note taken, but working as an archaeologist myself, you'd be surprised at what tiny traces humans can leave that are astoundingly obvious to the right eye and the right set of skills, traces that can tell a lot but may not be obvious. We find zilch in the geologic record of the Mesozoic, granted paleontologists don't set out to find artifacts (which is perfectly logical). As time dragged on in the future, after the discovery of time travel there could hypothetically be thousands of people visiting the Mesozoic (imagine the tourism industry that would erupt!) and I think plastic and metal items in particular would be obvious in the volume that they could be left behind to preserve.
DinoLord, I recommend it, very fascinating read.
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Post by deanm on Jul 28, 2011 14:33:32 GMT
Points taken. Unless we found a human skull inside a T. rex mummy's stomach area I suspect most people (paleontologists included) would not take notice.
I am curious as to what human artifacts would look like if they had been in the ground for 65 or more MYA. any insights/thoughts would be appreciated.
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Post by anchry6 on Jul 31, 2011 21:44:29 GMT
I heard a paleontologist (a consultant for Terra Nova) ... and it was very angry because of the wrong hands carnotaurus .. I can not tell more ... You have heard other voices?   |
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